On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 8:31:55 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> Den onsdag den 6. september 2017 kl. 00.14.28 UTC skrev Mark Eubanks:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 7:55:44 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> > > Den tirsdag den 5. september 2017 kl. 23.48.08 UTC skrev Mark Eubanks:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 12:06:28 PM UTC-4, Mark Eubanks wrote:
> > > > > Can someone explain why I can start the work VM but when I start the 
> > > > > personal I get the ERROR: insufficient mem .  Even though the memory 
> > > > > settings are the same 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks
> > > > 
> > > > I have 16 gig of ram but if I do a free -m it only shows a total of 
> > > > 1058 
> > > > used 364 free 26 . I'm not doing anything on any of the VM's its pretty 
> > > > much a new install and I can't open the personal vm .Anyone have any 
> > > > ideas
> > > 
> > > ah, you did this in Dom0 terminal right?
> > > The reason is because Qubes attempts to automatically balance which AppVM 
> > > gets more RAM than the other. If you right click on each AppVM in the 
> > > Qubes Manager (Qubes 3.2), you can see the automatic memory setting under 
> > > the Advanced tab, near the RAM amount fields. 
> > > So since each AppVM gets their fair share of the RAM portion, Dom0 will 
> > > have less memory for itself. This might change dynamically, for example 
> > > if you run a lot of AppVM's, the amount of RAM Dom0 has may shrink. Wnile 
> > > not many AppVM's are running, or after a fresh boot, Dom0 should have 
> > > more memory. 
> > > If you open the Qubes Manager in Qubes 3.2, you can see the allocated 
> > > memory to Dom0 and each the VM's. If it isnt visible, then you can make 
> > > it visible at the top in the "View" menu. 
> > > 
> > > Also note that automatic memory dyanamics does not work if a VM has a PCI 
> > > card passed through. So if you have any with automatic memory dynamics 
> > > disabled, be careful you don't give it too much of your RAM resources. 
> > > 16GB is a good amount, but it can still quickly run you if you have the 
> > > wrong settings, or run unusual memory hungry and intensive programs.
> > 
> > Yes, this was in Dom0 term 
> > 
> > I tried lowering the mem usage per vm and it seem to take care of the 
> > problem but I rebooted and it was again not allowing any other vm's to 
> > start other Dom0 mem shows 1092 mb sys-net shows 401 mb, sys-firewall 151 
> > mb ( I lowered it) sys-whonix, 151 mb ( which I lowered it as well) which 
> > comes no where close to 16 MEG
> > What's a good number to run the vm's at for mem min and max ? I'm just not 
> > sure whats taking up all the mem.
> 
> hmm odd, you shouldn't have memory issues with 16GB memory, unless you run 
> something big, or way too many VM's.
> 
> Try run 
> 'XL list'
> in Dom0 terminal. 
> 
> Grab a calculator, add up the "Mem" sizes of all the running VM's, see if it 
> adds up to 16GB. 
> 
> If it adds up, then you should be able to detect where your RAM is used in 
> the 'xl list' as well.
> 
> Be careful with loweing the sys-firewall and sys-net memory though. Frankly I 
> dont know if anything can happen, but I can't imagine it is a good thing if 
> they run out of memory. It's probably better to keep them at the default 
> values, just to be safe.

"btw Mark, I noticed it isn't the first time, but give it a day or two for 
answers. While Qubes is getting more and more popular, there aren't too many 
people around here. It gets worse since Qubes has many different 
forums/IRC/mail-posts/etc. so among the Qubes users that are, many are spread 
out. It will often take time to get answers. So, no need to worry."

I will keep this in mind.  

still looking at it .. it shouldn't be this hard 

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