On Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 4:03:44 PM UTC-6, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 11/19/2017 01:48 PM, v wrote: > > I have been using Qubes 3.2 for about 5 months and love it...thank you all > > who have contributed! > > > > I am a noobie so be gentle...I am also by no means an expert at Linux > > however I have been forced to learn quick. > > > > I managed to upgrade my Fedora template to 25 and have most of my VMs > > running on Fedora25 except for the default Debian8(Which I have reinstalled > > since my initial Qubes installation), my Whonix WS and GW are also > > defaults. I have also periodically upgraded these templates. > > > > I have some basic questions I am hoping I can get some help with: > > > > 1) It seems that alot of the experts use Debian as thier working > > VMs(Personal, Work, Banking, etc...) and have Fedora as the sys-firewall, > > sys-net, etc...is it more secure to use Debian in this way? Am I just as > > secure as using Fedora for my working VMs? I would have to think hacking > > Xen, then Fedora, then Debian would be harder... > > There are three issues that stand out for me: > > * Fedora is the only distro I've seen that doesn't sign their repository > manifest. The idea is if you want full security for updates you pay $$$ > for RHEL (Red Hat controls the Fedora project). > > * Fedora releases expire (stop getting security updates) after a > relatively short period (again, idea is pay $$$ to Red Hat for long-term > updates). > > * Fedora repositories are pretty sparse compared to the software > available in Debian and Ubuntu. > > These are the main reasons I choose to use Debian over Fedora. Debian > templates also work great for sys-net and firewall/VPN. > > > > 2) I have been able to copy/move files from Fedora VMs to other Fedora VMs > > but I have struggled to try and copy/move files from Debian(or Whonix-ws) > > to Fedora? Fedora has the "File" option from my "Q" menu(top right), when I > > am in the files I can right click and "Copy to Other AppVM" or "Open in > > DispVM". How do I access Debians version? > > The debian-8 template is close to a 'minimal' release and comes without > a file browser. You can copy from the terminal with the 'qvm-copy-to-vm' > command, or install a supported file browser (the one used in Fedora > template is nautilus). > > When installing nautilus, remember that its meant to work in concert > with the rest of Gnome... it may not work right if you install it by > specifying 'nautilus' (also you will have to install the python-gtk2 > package separately). The easiest way to get this working like it does in > Fedora is to run 'sudo tasksel' and select the Gnome desktop for > installation. > > -- > > Chris Laprise, > https://github.com/tasket > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886
Thank you Chris...instead of asking a myriad of follow up questions, do you or anybody else have some good resources for detailed "how tos" on how to configure the Debian Template for the laymans use? I managed to get LibreOffice loaded but my wish list would be an up-to-date Firefox, Nautilus(file manager) and what ever is required to get my wireless working with sys-net? I tried changing sys-net to Debian and my wireless wouldn't turn on(Couldn't find the option in my network icon in the top right of my screen). I would be happy to post these instructions back and submit them to the Qubes community if that is of value. Thank you again... I tried -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3cfa59a8-73af-4725-baa3-0843129a315b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.