On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 2:46:16 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > On 11/22/2017 05:07 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > > Now seems like a really good time to twist Intel's arm to the back and > > force them to get rid of these invasive blobs, once and for all. Going open > > source, should be the very minimum solution, after all, how can we trust a > > company like this otherwise, if they don't at least try to be as > > transparent as possible. They lack trust enough already as it is, them now > > admitting it should mean no more roadblocks to get rid of it once and for > > all. > > > > If they got to the point and they admitted it (and its no longer a case of > > proving its existence), and still don't want to do the right thing, then > > imho, all hell should break loose. > > > > Even if AMD is fucked up in this way as well, I'll buy AMD until Intel get > > this right. Because right now, Intel needs to look good again, while AMD > > does not after its come-back. Boycutting Intel now, may force its hand to > > do the right thing. Push em where it hurts. > > > > And if Intel finally does the right thing, then who knows, AMD may follow > > suit. AMD is halfway there already anyway. > > > AMD has PSP, which is their version of ME. It is no better. > > owner controlled POWER is the future, if enough people buy TALOS > products eventually they'll be a lower end option (FYI the TALOS 2 price > is appropriate for high end server hardware, it is actually less than > Intel's stuff) > > If google can't convince intel to offer a way to remove ME then no one > can, certainly not a small company with no real connections and no > hardware engineers (purism)
Nice! I did not know about TALOS, seems really interesting. I had kinda lost any hope for POWER CPU's since IBM are such big slackers when it comes to getting POWER marketed or supporting motherboard developers in the mass markets. The way I understand it, it's significantly easier to make motherboards, compared to making CPU's, and existing RAM technology can be used. So it was a bit mind-boggling for me that no one went ahead and made POWER motherboards. Not enough interest by the people at least capable of making motherboards, I guess? or my understanding of it falls short perhaps. But either way, TALOS is really good news. Though its a bit sad that its so pricy and only for desktops. Especially as mobile devices are becoming so powerful, that desktops are less relevant for most normal people these days. It makes the desktop market smaller, and TALOS even harder to sell to normal people, and thereby probably also less likely to drop in price then too. And as a result, much less likely to come to laptops as well then. Unless something changes? Seems like an evil unbreakable circle, unless a shortcut is being cut out somewhere. For one, the price is waaaaaay to high for most regular people. What hopes do we have for cheaper hardware, made available for the more popular devices (like laptops and phones), I wonder. It's so frustrating, getting hopes, but at the same time, just enough out of reach, dangling there like a carrot on a stick, laughing at you. Frustrating... also, lmao, indeed, the claims and lack of results to show for, are gonna make purism a laughing stock for years to come. Maybe if they involved the open source community and got a huge backing with a single voice, but instead, many open source people got offended by their overestimated claims. The irony... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c0abc87b-acae-4dad-8665-b96919c43f7e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
