On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 2:46:16 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > On 11/22/2017 05:07 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > > Now seems like a really good time to twist Intel's arm to the back and > > force them to get rid of these invasive blobs, once and for all. Going open > > source, should be the very minimum solution, after all, how can we trust a > > company like this otherwise, if they don't at least try to be as > > transparent as possible. They lack trust enough already as it is, them now > > admitting it should mean no more roadblocks to get rid of it once and for > > all. > > > > If they got to the point and they admitted it (and its no longer a case of > > proving its existence), and still don't want to do the right thing, then > > imho, all hell should break loose. > > > > Even if AMD is fucked up in this way as well, I'll buy AMD until Intel get > > this right. Because right now, Intel needs to look good again, while AMD > > does not after its come-back. Boycutting Intel now, may force its hand to > > do the right thing. Push em where it hurts. > > > > And if Intel finally does the right thing, then who knows, AMD may follow > > suit. AMD is halfway there already anyway. > > > AMD has PSP, which is their version of ME. It is no better. > > owner controlled POWER is the future, if enough people buy TALOS > products eventually they'll be a lower end option (FYI the TALOS 2 price > is appropriate for high end server hardware, it is actually less than > Intel's stuff) > > If google can't convince intel to offer a way to remove ME then no one > can, certainly not a small company with no real connections and no > hardware engineers (purism)
oh btw Tai, I realized I missed your AMD line comment. I'm well aware that AMD sucks too, but this is not my point I tried to make. The point is that AMD looks good (for other reasons), compared to Intel right now. If Intel wants to fight back, they could for starters try stop appearing so... well.. "evil" or needlessly and overly "greedy" beyond reason. So I'm not saying AMD is any better, it's just that AMD can be used, like a tool, to fuck Intel up enough, to force Intel's hand to do something good (hopefully). Question is, will enough people do it, in orcer to force Intel's hand. And if enough do it, then its probably not for this reason. But nontheless, whatever little helps to send Intel a clear signal that they need to behave to regain any love. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a43c179c-0091-4c12-8bbb-e97e5c1a892e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
