On Tuesday, 28 November 2017 03:38:02 CET Andrew David Wong wrote: > Our position is that reasonable security > via compartmentalization (of which Qubes is an implementation) requires > the user to make informed decisions about how to compartmentalize > various parts of their digital life into separate domains.
I fully agree with genevieve on all he said, and I'm not sure if the answer I quoted above is a good answer to his worries. Lets avoid making conclusions about "dummies", I personally would say a lot of people can make a much more secure setup using Qubes even if they are completely inable to use a command line. The trick is to not treat your users like morons but at the same time create usable and well designed (graphical) tools. What is missing currently is support for anything that is not xfce and while genevieve prefers Gnome, I perfer KDE. The GUI tools that Qubes came with in 3.2 are hardly done (many missing features) in 4.0, and thats Ok because they can be done at a later time. Writing usability centric tools is hard. What would be ideal is the opening of the APIs for 3rd party implementation. Naturally, there is an API, but its a python API, which is not exactly the most used API for graphical tools. I would argue that opening up the qubesd interface to users using other languages will open up the playing field to many GUI developers. Maybe even get some KDE / Gnome native integration. I won't speak for the core Qubes devs, but I would not be surprised if they would welcome others helping out with GUI tools because if you are good at security and Xen and stuff, that doesn't mean you enjoy doing GUIs. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/21030661.7mqzxMQjci%40cherry. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
