On 11/23/2017 07:55 AM, Leo Gaspard wrote:

Can you please avoid ranting against secure boot once again?

Secure boot is *not* useless. It *does* bring security benefits,
although not as good as measured boot with a TPM: it requires an
additional flaw somewhere in the {BIOS, bootloader} to bypass, instead
of just coming in and replacing a non-encrypted element of the bootchain
by taking the hard disk out of its case without ever being noticed. So
if you have no TPM, using secure boot is a definitive security enhancement.
The "linux" SB (ie: red hat signed grub) is only for signed grub it doesn't sign the kernel or the initramfs, one can also mess with the BIOS or ME which is well within the skill level of a state attacker such as the MSS.
There are also a variety of SB exploits/bypasses.

Irregardless it'll be what eventually kills linux on the desktop for the average person after the vendors stop including the linux signing key (SB 2.0 specs don't obligate them to allow for owner control or even the inclusion of the second key unlike SB 1.0 specs), if you desire such features it would be much better to simply use a bios-embedded GRUB2 via coreboot which supports kernel/initramfs signing features.

"Secure" Boot is a MS trojan horse.

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