On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:00:01AM +0000, a.mcwh...@yandex.com wrote: > I will support that point of view. > Could we please have a choice to stay with the manager or to use > console/whatever? > Thank you. > > > On December 6, 2017 10:54:26 PM UTC, Chris Laprise <tas...@posteo.net> wrote: > >On 12/06/2017 10:29 AM, r...@tuta.io wrote: > >> The manager was the main thing I liked about how it helped show what > >was going on at any given time. Especially when running mulitple vms > >attached to different VPNs, Tor, etc.. > >> > >> Im a visual person and having this made it feel safe and secure to > >watch what was going on fast and making changes fast. I know of only 2 > >other people that use qubes personally. Both of which when I told them > >had the same response I did. > >> > >> There was no reason to remove it when you could opt to not use it. Or > >make the gui more appealing but to replace it and claim "advanced users > >can use the command line", I stand by my original remark. I definitely > >will not be using 4. > > > >I also take this view. Qubes 4.0 shows what can happen when you change > >UIs without consulting the community. > > > >The devs seem to think that combining status info and functions in the > >same window is bad design and/or intimidating to users. Now we have two > > > >tiny icons on opposite sides of the screen and the user is starved of > >info. I would welcome the return of Qubes Manager.
Marek has made it clear that a rewritten VM Manager might be included as an alternative, so there isn't TOTAL opposition to this, provided the manager uses the core API. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20171207014739.4yfs4l3jhw3dadpm%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
