On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 7:10:33 PM UTC+1, Braden wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:50:23 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 09:48:43AM -0800, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 6:38:49 PM UTC+1, Unman wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 08:52:07AM -0800, Braden wrote:
> > > > > Performing some modifications to dom0, but when I run apps like wget 
> > > > > from dom0 terminal I am unable to resolve addresses. Same if I were 
> > > > > to try running firefox from dom0. Know this is because of security 
> > > > > benefits, but how can I enable networking from there. Say I wanted to 
> > > > > connect to dom0 from a vnc temporarily.
> > > > > 
> > > > There's almost never any need to do this. If you want to install
> > > > packages you can use the update mechanism. Otherwise download files in a
> > > > qube and then copy them in to dom0 and install them there.
> > > > If dom0 is compromised then all your qubes are open.
> > > > 
> > > > But you probably know this already.
> > > > 
> > > > As things stand it's difficult, but not impossible to access dom0. You
> > > > could open a channel to allow vnc to a qube and use socat and an rpc
> > > > service to front to dom0. But really just dont do it: it subverts the
> > > > whole point in using Qubes.
> > > 
> > > btw, isn't it possible that he can use the Qubes 4 dom0 admin features to 
> > > make changes to VM's from a remote location? Could the solution be to 
> > > upgrade to Qubes 4 and use that instead? I haven't yet went 
> > > discovering/understood the limitations of the Qubes 4 dom0 admin tools, 
> > > but isn't this a perfect match to his goal if he upgrades? Apologies if I 
> > > misunderstood how the dom0 admin features work, I haven't started using 
> > > it my self yet.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, it is.
> > OP could read this post
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/06/27/qubes-admin-api/
> My hardware is only 3.2 supported rn as you guessed, suppose I could explore 
> the unique service idea, is there anything similar on *nix

>From a security point of view, Qubes 4 is probably long past the point to 
>surpass the security risk there is to opening up dom0 to networking (if 
>comparing the two situations purely from a security risk point of view). So if 
>you got the time for it, it might be worth it to install Qubes to gain access 
>to the dom0 admin tools. In terms of reliability, well personally I feel Qubes 
>4 is pretty stable, I haven't had any major issues. But they're still working 
>on it, though, I believe it's because they want it to as perfect as possible. 
>It's very different from being ready to release, and to release something near 
>a perfection goal. Well obviously perfection is a dangerous word to use, but 
>it can translated into high quality instead. That's how I perceive it at 
>least. If you got the time, it may be worth upgrading.

Perhaps others may put in a word for how ready they perceive Qubes 4 is for 
productivity and mission critical work. Since it isn't officially released as 
as a final release yet, the more views on this matter, the merrier and more 
accurate it'll be. 

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