Well Steve it worked.  after formatting the usb to ext, changing ownership of 
it to user,  and using a non disposable template browser.  I was able to 
download the 4.4gb iso to it.

Still not something the avg user would know how to do,  but Qubes is no longer 
aimed at the average user it seems.  Your solution was simple enough for me at 
least.

So Thank you again.

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