On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 5:08:56 PM UTC-4, steve.coleman wrote:
> On 03/22/18 21:25, cooloutac wrote:
> > Well Steve it worked.  after formatting the usb to ext, changing ownership 
> > of it to user,  and using a non disposable template browser.  I was able to 
> > download the 4.4gb iso to it.
> > 
> > Still not something the avg user would know how to do,  but Qubes is no 
> > longer aimed at the average user it seems.  Your solution was simple enough 
> > for me at least.
> > 
> > So Thank you again.
> 
> Glad you got it to work. I've had days like that. Like the time my 
> machine crashed and the Qubes DVD image was larger than would fit on a 
> single layer DVD. I didn't have a dual-layer drive and no extra USB 
> bootable thumb-drives to put it on.
> 
> I'm not sure that Qubes was ever "designed" for the casual user. One has 
> to be dedicated enough to computer security to go through the extra 
> effort to keep up with the day to day issues. I'm hoping that will 
> correct itself going forward. I run 4.0-r4 at work and 3.2 at home 
> because its easier for the family.
> 
> In my book it is completely worth the effort, as I use it both at work 
> and at home as my only desktop, but I have yet to meet anyone at work 
> that is as paranoid (or insane?) enough to run it. How many people do 
> you know that have "SpySlide" installed on _all_ their mobile devices? 
> (https://www.spy-fy.com/) If its got a camera, it is blind, until I want 
> it not to be. The microphone though is a harder problem...

Well I felt like 3.2 was though.  Qubes kept getting more user friendly, but I 
guess that peaked with 3.2.  My mother uses Qubes no problem and the only time 
she ever has to use a terminal command is if she accidentally shuts down the 
sys-usb instead of restarting it lol.  

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