On 04/02/2018 09:32 PM, cooloutac wrote: > On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote: >> On 09/08/2017 07:12 AM, Leo Gaspard wrote: >> >>> Just a datapoint: secure boot is *not* microsoft-controlled (unless you >>> assume the manufacturer put in some kind of backdoor, in which case >>> you're screwed anyway). >> Yes it is microsoft controlled, they're the ones who made the standard >> and conveniently left out the owner controlled mandate in sb 2.0 once >> the attention died down. >> It will eventually be used to prevent people from running linux all >> together at least your own linux not one that is approved by red hat. > Where are these boards. I've never seen one that doesnt' let you shut it off > or use your own keys? The MS ARM "Windows RT" tablets for one - with those they test the waters. SB 2.0 leaves out the owner control mandate - go examine the specs and see for yourself.
Smartphones were actually the first area the walled garden was tested on. I am old enough to remember the PalmOS era when installing apps on a smartphone was the same as the average win32 model of downloading something off the internet not a walled garden app store - folks like apple/ms have the masses convinced that it has always been a walled garden but that is not the case. > Time will tell, but right now as Richard Stallman thinks "its failed its > intended purpose" This is a slow burn effort - doing it all at once straight away would lead to protest. > and Why Red Hat? Red hat controls linux and is microsoft friendly - because their developers control many critical linux programs they ARE a modern desktop linux. Why do you think so distros suddenly adopted systemd against the opinions of their users? or why so many core programs now require red hat controlled systemd? (like gnome and udev) Red hat accepted "secure" boot and got a grub and kernel signed by MS - such an action is a betrayal. Soon you will not even be able run the apps you please on the average store bought computer enforcing a MS monopoly where they get a cut of every app sale. MS says "Windows 10 S is not well-suited for many app developers/hackers, admins & IT pro's!" How do you create the next generation of those? They ALL learn on their parents computer not some "developer edition" which not even wealthy parents buy their children. Windows S, a locked down walled garden PC is the future of computing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b78210fd-9edf-d31b-6654-546770ec427c%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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