On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:46:08 PM UTC+1, higgin...@gmail.com wrote:
> Have used Qubes3 for a couple of years and now acquired a new PC where I've 
> done a complete fresh install of QUBES 4.
> 
> (Copied all my data off old system - ready for adding to new system when all 
> set up)
> 
> Base system seems fine - standard VM's etc - but everything by default based 
> on Fedora - albeit Debian and Fedora templates offered by default.
> 
> Fedora template has lots of assorted software - that I could use to add to 
> various Vm's as required - a standard new VM using Fedora template offers 
> FILES, TERMINAL, FIREFOX and QUBES SETTINGS - basically core features to get 
> me started.
> 
> WHEN I LOOK AT THE DEBIAN-9 template - there is no software at all.
> 
> ALSO the DEBIAN-9 template and any VM that I generate using it, only offers  
> QUBE-SETTINGS - i.e. no TERMINAL, BROWSER or FILEs.
> 
> 
> CAN ANYONE advise on what I should do next - assume if I get access to 
> terminal, I can install all software I want - but assumed there would be a 
> standard stock of software/base features available in the Debian-9 template.
> 
> (Am sure this was the case with QUBES3)
> 
> Grateful for advice - my preference is to use Debian (as per last 2 years 
> within QUBES and many years before that using DEBIAN distro) rather than 
> Fedora.

See awokd comments.
Problem is that I have nothing in APPLICATIONS.

Have tried Removing DEB9 template, installing DEB8 template and then following 
the Upgrade 8 to 9 route.
This initially seems to solve problem. Load of APPLICATIONS appear - and by 
going into repos folder- could change "jessie" to "stretch". Then 
update/upgrade.  
Still can't use the APPLICATIONS in DEB 9.

I'll try it again with fresh install - in case I did something wrong.
Another option - might simply copy the DEB9 "template" from previous computer 
and install that - but wanted to avoid that - just naturally want to have 
"clean" install on QUBES 4 on new computer.

Any other suggestions welcome - have others found DEBIAN-9 template OK on clean 
install?.

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