This sounds very interesting Chris. This could be the way around the "loss of 
VM data" during the install process and push the INSTALL over UPGRADE 
decission. Did you do the same with the whonix-gw too?


Aug 13, 2018, 2:48 AM by [email protected]:

> On 08/12/2018 05:23 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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>> On 2018-08-12 14:26, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
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>>> On Sun, August 12, 2018 6:16 pm, >>> [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>  wrote:
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>>>> I am planning to move from my Whonix 13 to Whonix 14 on Qubes. My
>>>> question is what way it should be easier, based on the Q user
>>>> experiences. What would you propose - upgrade or re-install? Are
>>>> there any known issues which would call for one or other way?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Re-install is usually easier.
>>>
>>>> I have few VMs based on the Whonix template with data and
>>>> settings on it. Will the contents of these VMs remain, or will
>>>> it be destroyed - re-install vs upgrade?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Contents should remain, just set them to the new Whonix template.
>>> Make sure to back up everything first.
>>>
>>
>> The installation guide [1] states:
>>
>> "Re-installation will destroy any existing user data stored in Whonix
>> VMs, unless it is backed up first. To avoid this scenario, it is
>> possible to upgrade Whonix 13 to 14 instead of following these
>> instructions."
>>
>> This was puzzling to me, too, since TemplateVM upgrades usually don't
>> affect user data in TemplateBasedVMs. Could you shed some light on
>> this, Patrick?
>>
>
> What I did: Cloned the old whonix-ws template, switched appvms to the clone, 
> then did 'dnf remove' on the old templates and finally performed the 
> recommended whonix install procedure.
>
> Later, I was able to switch existing whonix appVMs to whonix-ws-14.
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