On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-5, Guy Frank wrote:
> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:34:49 AM UTC-5, Marcus Linsner wrote:
> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 12:27:04 PM UTC+2, Marcus Linsner wrote:
> > > Actually I just looked, my MBR starts with lots of zeroes until the 
> > > partitions are defined
> > 
> > In fact the MBR contains the definition of only one (dummy)partition, since 
> > it's GPT, like:
> > 
> > [ctor@dom0 ~]$ sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=here.mbr bs=512 count=1
> > 1+0 records in
> > 1+0 records out
> > 512 bytes copied, 8.5102e-05 s, 6.0 MB/s
> > [ctor@dom0 ~]$ fdisk -l here.mbr 
> > GPT PMBR size mismatch (468862127 != 0) will be corrected by w(rite).
> > Disk here.mbr: 512 B, 512 bytes, 1 sectors
> > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
> > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > Disklabel type: dos
> > Disk identifier: 0x00000000
> > 
> > Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
> > here.mbr1           1 468862127 468862127 223.6G ee GPT
> > 
> > but this doesn't matter.
> > 
> > I see the 'Boot' field is present only here (when type is dos, but not when 
> > type is gpt)
> 
> Hi Marcus:  Thanks so much for your input on this!  You're on the right track 
> to think this is a UEFI issue.  I've learned more about my problem, so let me 
> explain.
> 
> I have new hardware and the BIOS that comes w/ it *absolutely refuses* to run 
> MBRs for internal storage (HDD, SSD).  Problem is that when I transfer the 
> Qubes ISO over to a USB drive, it sets up the drive with a MBR (fdisk -l 
> shows 'msdos' or 'dos').  Apparently the Qubes installer takes a cue from the 
> install medium and installs with a MBR, not with UEFI / GPT (again, checked 
> with fdisk -l).  When I try to run the installation, even though it's all 
> there, the BIOS refuses to treat the installation as a bootable disk--so it 
> boots nothing and throws an error.
> 
> If I understand your suggestion, it's to set the BIOS to UEFI and try to 
> install.  Problem is it will not read my usb drive with the Qubes install on 
> it--because the drive has a MBR and UEFI mode will not read a thumb drive 
> that isn't UEFI / GPT.
> 
> I therefore looked for instructions on how to convert the Qubes installation 
> USB drive to UEFI / GPT (and then install w/ BIOS set to UEFI).  I followed 
> the instructions here:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/thinkpad-troubleshooting/
> 
> Ran into two problems.  One is that I get an error at the end of creating the 
> GPT thumb drive saying that there is no grub.cfg file to write out to the 
> USB.  [specifically: sed: can't read /run/tgttmp.xI67OE/EFI/BOOT/grub.cfg: No 
> such file or directory]  Have no idea what causes that, but perhaps a 
> grub.cfg is not essential.  The second problem I run into is that, contrary 
> to the instructions, I see no xen.cfg under .../EFI/BOOT, just a BOOT.cfg.  I 
> change the label to BOOT in this cfg file, the only one in that directory.
> 
> When I try to install, I get a 'Panic on CPU 0' and installation halts before 
> I get to the Qubes GUI install.  The error seems to be that Xen can't read 
> the cmos time to set its time.  One of the calls is to efi_get_time.
> 
> When I installed from a MBR USB stick, I got to the Qubes QUI install w/o any 
> fatal errors.  So am guessing there's something about efi_get_time that isn't 
> cooperating w/ my computer's hardware.
> 
> At this point, I don't know whether I should give up because Qubes is not yet 
> compatible with my hardware (Dell Precision 3630), or whether I should 
> continue my efforts, perhaps by finding alternative instructions for creating 
> UEFI USB sticks for installation.
> 
> Best, Guy


OK, then, I read somewhere that DVD-ROM installations will install either UEFI 
or Legacy, depending on the setting of the BIOS.  So, I tried burning a DVD w/ 
Qubes and running that.  I get the same error as above, including the efi time 
problem (which I suspect also shows the install is going to UEFI), so it looks 
like when I do succeed in installing from a UEFI media, I simply run headlong 
into a software bug related to my newer hardware.  I can't find any info on the 
bug online and have no idea how I might fix it.  Qubes, then, looks like it's 
out for me.  This is the 2nd time I've tried to use Qubes and run into severe 
problems.  Oh well, would be a great OS to be using, but if I can't, I can't.



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