On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 11:21:54 UTC+1, Антон Чехов  wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 12:02:51 PM UTC+2, Wolf moon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:46:44 UTC+1, Антон Чехов  wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 10:37:06 AM UTC+2, Wolf moon wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, 15 September 2018 04:21:53 UTC+1, Wolf moon  wrote:
> > > > > Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security 
> > > > > engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > My only issue is logging into my vpn service. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are 
> > > > > different to Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter 
> > > > > someone said that this is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful 
> > > > > there ) I also contacted my vpn service on the matter. They read up 
> > > > > on the Qubes instructions and emailed me back a step by step guide 
> > > > > but still no joy. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( 
> > > > > which I found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and 
> > > > > works fine on my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you 
> > > > > download.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore 
> > > > > techy, I am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command 
> > > > > line in linux. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to 
> > > > > resolve this on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so 
> > > > > last time I checked.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Wolf Moon
> > > > 
> > > > Okay guys so I am signed up to Nordvpn. ( To note: I always update 
> > > > everything in Qube manager )
> > > > 
> > > > I started off by google searching how to set up a vpn on qubes. I dont 
> > > > have every forum page be it google groups or reddit page saved I read 
> > > > unfortunately. 
> > > > 
> > > > But they generally instructed me to do go through the steps to set up a 
> > > > vpn as Qubes instructs on their page 
> > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/#set-up-a-proxyvm-as-a-vpn-gateway-using-networkmanager
> > > > 
> > > > Specifically Set up a ProxyVM as a VPN gateway using iptables and CLI 
> > > > scripts
> > > > 
> > > > What I was referencing referring to the diagram/photo being outdated or 
> > > > of the old version of Qubes prior to 4.0 was the Dom0 create a new Vm. 
> > > > It just comes up looking different which is what one of the OPs 
> > > > mentioned on one of the how to guides I found. 
> > > > 
> > > > Moving forward.
> > > > 
> > > > Certain commands didn't work like sudo which after googling one forum 
> > > > posted in Qubes you dont use sudo much, dnf ( what ever that is ) is 
> > > > used instead which is what I used.
> > > > 
> > > > I created a Qube named it Nordvpn > Template > Fedora-26 > Networking > 
> > > > sys-net 
> > > > Appvm
> > > > 
> > > > From there the rest of the instructions didn't work on Qubes for me.
> > > > 
> > > > Apart from downloading the nord config files successfully which are in 
> > > > my nordvpn documents folder with all the server addresses as txt files 
> > > > eg uk648.nordvpn.comtcp443.ovpn
> > > > 
> > > > Also was instructed to download nano reader and a few other things.
> > > > 
> > > > My cd ls in my nordvpn terminal is as follows 
> > > > 
> > > > Desktop    Music      Templates       nano.save
> > > > Documents  Pictures   Videos          openvpn-client.ovpn.txt
> > > > Downloads  Public      auth-user-pass  pass.txt        
> > > > 
> > > > ( To note and jumping ahead: following tasket's Reddit page on Qubes 
> > > > vpn set up instructions I added vpn-handler-openvpn to services in the 
> > > > appvm I named Nordvpn )
> > > > 
> > > > So from there comes Nordvpns reply ( they were very helpful before 
> > > > helping me successfully setting up my vpn link on my Raspberry Pi )
> > > > 
> > > > I received this email: 
> > > > 
> > > > Hello, Adam,
> > > > 
> > > > I have checked your OS documentation and it would be great if you could 
> > > > test out the following setup:
> > > > Disable any auto-starting service that comes with the software package. 
> > > > For example for OpenVPN.
> > > > sudo systemctl disable openvpn.service
> > > > You may also wish to install nano or another simple text editor for 
> > > > entering the scripts below. Now run the following command to create VPN 
> > > > directory:
> > > > sudo mkdir /rw/config/vpn
> > > > Enter the directory using the following command:
> > > > cd 
> > > > /rw/config/vpn
> > > > 
> > > > Then our website - https://nordvpn.com/servers/#recommended , on the 
> > > > server picker you will see recommended server number. Then open 
> > > > https://nordvpn.com/ovpn/ website and download recommended server file. 
> > > > You can download directly to device and transfer to your VM or use 
> > > > command to download from the hyperlink:
> > > > sudo wget 
> > > > https://downloads.nordcdn.com/configs/files/ovpn_legacy/servers/us1310.nordvpn.com.udp1194.ovpn
> > > > (Change the last line of server name to download the correct file). 
> > > > Then rename downloaded file to client.ovpn
> > > > The VPN client may not be able to prompt you for credentials when 
> > > > connecting to the server. Create a file in the /rw/config/vpn folder 
> > > > with your credentials and using a directive. For example for OpenVPN, 
> > > > edit:
> > > > auth-user-pass
> > > > to:
> > > > auth-user-pass pass.txt
> > > > 
> > > > Save file /rw/config/vpn/client.ovpn. Make sure a 
> > > > /rw/config/vpn/pass.txt file actually exists.
> > > > sudo nano /rw/config/vpn/pass.txt
> > > > Add:
> > > > username
> > > > password
> > > > Replace username and password with your actual username and password.
> > > > Test your client configuration: Run the client from a CLI prompt in the 
> > > > ‘vpn’ folder, preferably as root. For example:
> > > > sudo openvpn --cd /rw/config/vpn --config client.ovpn
> > > > Watch for status messages that indicate whether the connection is 
> > > > successful and test from another VPN VM terminal window with ping.
> > > > ping 8.8.8.8
> > > > ping can be aborted by pressing the two keys ctrl + c at the same time. 
> > > > DNS may be tested at this point by replacing addresses in 
> > > > /etc/resolv.conf with ones appropriate for your VPN (although this file 
> > > > will not be used when setup is complete). Diagnose any connection 
> > > > problems using resources such as client documentation and help from 
> > > > your VPN service provider. Proceed to the next step when you’re sure 
> > > > the basic VPN connection is working.
> > > > 
> > > > Set up the VPN’s autostart.
> > > > sudo nano /rw/config/rc.local
> > > > Clear out the existing lines and add:
> > > > #!/bin/bash 
> > > > VPN_CLIENT='openvpn' VPN_OPTIONS='--cd /rw/config/vpn/ --config 
> > > > openvpn-client.ovpn --daemon'
> > > > su - -c 'notify-send "$(hostname): Starting $VPN_CLIENT..." 
> > > > --icon=network-idle' user
> > > > groupadd -rf qvpn ; sleep 2s
> > > > sg qvpn -c "$VPN_CLIENT $VPN_OPTIONS" 
> > > > If you are using anything other than OpenVPN, change the VPN_CLIENT and 
> > > > VPN_OPTIONS variables to match your VPN software. Save the script. Make 
> > > > it executable.
> > > > sudo chmod +x /rw/config/rc.local
> > > > Restart the new VM! The link should then be established automatically 
> > > > with a popup notification to that effect.
> > > > 
> > > > Let us know how it will go! 
> > > > 
> > > > But..starting out I fell over the first hurdle. 
> > > > 
> > > > in the Nordvpn terminal I typed in Sudo systemctl disable 
> > > > openvpn.service
> > > > 
> > > > message back: Failed to disable unit: Unit file openvpn.service doesn 
> > > > not exist. 
> > > > 
> > > > That is where I am now.
> > > > 
> > > > Any help and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. 
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > 
> > > > Wolf moon
> > > 
> > > You cannot disable something that does not exist. Just move on to the 
> > > next point. Did you enable the "provides network" option while creating 
> > > your VPN-App?
> > > 
> > > Creating a new VPN-app is looking like that for me, my apps stand for the 
> > > country:
> > > 
> > > Name: sys-vpn-austria
> > > Type: AppVM
> > > Template: Debian (or course you can use Fedora, but it should be 28, 26 
> > > is outdated!)
> > > Networking: default (sys-firewall)
> > > provides network: enabled
> > > 
> > > The guide provided seems fine and you could check if the connection works 
> > > but you should include the other scripts as well in order to make sure 
> > > that all traffic is going through your vpn only.
> > 
> > Yes I did enable provide network sys-net. 
> > 
> > Okay switched to the same settings you have in your vpn. 
> > 
> > Which particular guide are you referring to as there are a few.
> > 
> > I am lost when you say include other scripts as I do not know what scripts 
> > you are referring to.
> 
> I am used to this guide:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/
> starting here:
> Set up a ProxyVM as a VPN gateway using iptables and CLI scripts
> 
> There are scripts for DNS-handling, firewall and autostart included.
> 
> I do not rename my ovpn-client file but use the original name instead 
> (uk648.nordvpn.comtcp443.ovpn). Just pay attention to insert it whenever 
> "openvpn-client.ovpn" is mentioned. 
> This is important when creating the autostart script (point 6):
> 
> The script would look like this:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> VPN_CLIENT='openvpn'
> VPN_OPTIONS='--cd /rw/config/vpn/ --config uk648.nordvpn.comtcp443.ovpn 
> --daemon'
>    
> su - -c 'notify-send "$(hostname): Starting $VPN_CLIENT..." 
> --icon=network-idle' user
> groupadd -rf qvpn ; sleep 2s
> sg qvpn -c "$VPN_CLIENT $VPN_OPTIONS"
> 
> This approach should be easier but I only tried it once. It did work fine for 
> me:
> https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support

Wow just had success and defeat in the same instance lol.

SO I'm trying everything and decided to go back to the nordvpn website, browse 
through and follow the linux tutorial page. 

<I Deleted the old nordvpn proxy I set up and made an new one to start afresh>

see > https://nordvpn.com/tutorials/linux/openvpn/

Followed it to a T in both the nord appvm terminal and the disposable fedora 26 
vm terminal an voila! both worked and completed the vpn link in the terminal 
just like on my raspberry pi!...However...On opening the firefox pages of both 
then googling ip tracker...well in the nord appvm it wont go onto the internet 
at all and that is with allowing network etc..on the disposable fedora 26 
firefox it goes on the internet but still says exactly where I am even when I 
deleted history again ( which shouldnt matter as it deletes the who history and 
vm every time you close it )

So I am puzzled...

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