On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:28:12PM +0000, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> Jon deps wrote on 4/5/19 10:21 AM:
> > On 4/5/19 6:21 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> > > Jon deps wrote on 4/4/19 4:30 PM:
> > > > 
> > > > on rebooting my taskbar time is for some reason not persisting Again !
> > > > I can try explaining but  there seem to be too many moving
> > > > parts  to ever get this to stop breaking  on random reboots ?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > I know it was supposed to have been fixed at one point and I had
> > > > been using a different template that wasn't broken,  maybe I
> > > > need to go find that manual  fix  and try it again  though  my 
> > > > debian-10 was just an upgrade not a new template ,  but maybe
> > > > the upgrade broke  ntp or something ,  doesn't explain why
> > > > fedora-29  would be broken
> > > 
> > > Yes, going back to fedora-28 or debian-9 should fix it. It's
> > > possible the issue re-occurred in fedora-29. Try the same manual fix
> > > there.
> > > 
> > > Think Qubes' policy is only the current version of Debian is
> > > supported, so if you choose to upgrade to 10 it's entirely possible
> > > you'll break things. If I remember right, there will be an
> > > announcement once 10 is supported and available for download as a
> > > template.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > PS:  is it a bad idea  to  upgrade (which I've done successfully to
> > debian-10)  if the templates are not available,  guess I was thinking
> > the fact that I was able to upgrade  means there were templates there
> > ...
> 
> It's not a bad idea per se, just unsupported. That means there's a higher
> chance of you running into problems with Qubes related utilities, and any
> fixes or workarounds from the Qubes OS team will be low priority compared to
> versions they actively support. However, if you are able to contribute by
> testing out new versions and possibly developing fixes, that can save them
> time!
> 

Also, lets not forget that Debian10 is "testing" - it's liable to break,
and doesnt get security updates like stable.
There are issues with some Qubes packages in buster - fixing them hasnt
been a high priority until the buster freeze.

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