Thanks for the reply.  I'm in the UK, so I think you're right, the Insurgo 
machine would probably cost me in terms of shipping, import duty etc.  So 
the Nitropad (from Germany I think) is probably a better bet.

I also think you're right in that both machines use a Nitrokey.  The 
difference I think is that Insurgo put their security key on the machine, 
and then force you to change it when you first boot up.  With the Nitropad, 
there is just a default key (something like "changemenow") which obviously 
needs to be changed (!) but I don't know if there is a formal reowning 
process.

Never heard of easyOS, I'll have a look.

"noobs need Qubes" wasn't my quote!!!


On Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:04:54 UTC+1, Catacombs wrote:
>
> Your choice between NitroPad or Insurgo might depend on where you live.  I 
> think Insurgo is based in north America, and Nitro is based in Europe.  
> Different taxes, shipping problems, searches.  I thought they both allowed 
> for non-tampered shipping security with NitroKey.
>
> Option three is is the laptop from Puri, Librem.  From north America, also 
> allows for non-tampered shipping security with NitroKey.  https://puri.sm/
>
> Besides there standard offering they have a sale on what they call 
> refurbished, which some believe is Puri/Librem clearing their warehouse 
> shelves.  
>
> https://forums.puri.sm/t/refurbished-librem-laptops-on-sale/8841
>
> For their Pure OS, they offer another service, (for a monthly fee).  
> Despite being Debian based, these do not install so easily on other Linux 
> OS's.  https://librem.one/    
>
> They offer their own Debian based OS, Pure OS.    Pure uses Boxes for 
> security.   These is free OS, and you can give it a whirl without buying 
> anything.  https://www.pureos.net/  
>
> Puri/Librem  will install Qubes for you, (I think for a charge) or you can 
> do that on your own.
>
> The other OS's which one might use is Tails Linux (yeah, you knew that, 
> but I had to mention it.)  and Easy OS.  
>
> Easy OS some might not consider to be secure, only one developer, Barry 
> Kauler, uses Boxes for security.  
> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109958
>
> I guess noobs need Qubes is a joke, because it has some intensive learning 
> associated with using it properly.  or at all
>
>
>
>
>

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