Hello, unfortunately no, they do not end up the same.
just a very quick summary from what i have to assume according to what is stated on the Nitropad website: In general, i see the following issues: Assuming they use Heads' Pursim code for generic key generation/export of the public key/insertion into the ROM and flashing it back: 1: That would mean they use default Pins, therefor its possible to intercept the whole process at any point (compromising the firmware and resealing the key) 2: No reproducible builds. 3: Were can the code be found, which version? No public CI, no public builds artifacts. Also, about the shipping: I cant see any security benefit the way they do it (Qr code not send by secure communication)? Keep in Mind, i might be wrong with this assumptions, as i dont have a Nitropad/ cant install their Image because of the issues i mentioned (2/3) About installing a different OS: Thats possible. About the Wifimodule: Apart from other reasons,the default Intel 6205 sucks anyway, I suggest Atheros 9380. Pursim products cant compare security wise with the PrivacyBeast/ Nitropad/ any x30 series Lenovo with coreboot because of the hardware architecture they use. cheers On 4/14/20 1:36 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Hello > > I'm thinking of trying my hand at Qubes (currently a long-time Linux > Mint user), and I need a new laptop anyway so I'm thinking of the > Nitropad or Insurgo machines. > > You say that the Insurgo is "more secure" and "exceeds" the > requirements of Qubes certification; in what ways is this? Is it just > the reownership process (which I admit does look more stringent in the > as of the Insurgo, but they end up re-owned just the same?). > > If I got one of these machines and for some reason decided that Qubes > wasn't for me, would it be easy to "nuke" the Qubes and just install > Linux Mint or whatever? Would a Linux installer have any problems > with Coreboot etc? > > Thanks in advance > > Andrew > > On Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:40:23 UTC+1, Maillist wrote: > > Hello, > > the Privacy Beast is more secure. As they write, it meets and exceeds > the Qubes os certification, the Nitropad only meets them.They > differ in > the OEM reownership process. > > > cheers. > > On 4/8/20 1:03 AM, 'dcon' via qubes-users wrote: > > Are there any significant differences between the two? It seems > that Nitropad has more hardware configuration options. With ME > inactivation, is there any reason to swap out the WiFi module? > > > > I’d like to thank both vendors for bringing these to the market! > > > > Noobs need Qubes! 👏 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/93fd27f8-2838-43c3-9f84-0c3865382d0d%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/93fd27f8-2838-43c3-9f84-0c3865382d0d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a17b43e8-ee81-73ea-d25c-853d0c494493%40cryptogs.de.
