> APOLOGIES FOR GOING OFF TOPIC SOMEWHAT. SHOULD WE MOVE THIS DISCUSSION TO A > DIFFERENT THREAD?
Perhaps we should, but this seems to be as good a forum as any other. > privacy. But for me, and probably many others, this rates fairly low in my > mind. What is more important, is security: security that your > communications have not undergone tampering, security that your money isn't > being stolen, security that no-one is fiddling with your online > accounts, etc. Privacy is also important, but only as a part of the overall > aim of achieving security. It depends on the place where you live and the conditions with regard to surveillance etc. there. If the government/corporation don't see you as a risk (which you can only guess, because you are not told or supposed to be told), then security from petty criminals is the major concern. If they do see as a risk (for whatever reason or some red flag raised by some algorithm or whatever else that is possible today), then it's a different matter and privacy is as important as security, if not more. In my opinion, privacy by itself is a basic right, like human rights. Even with human rights, what I said above applies. As long as your behaviour or profile or record or even credit rating (think of China, for example) doesn't make the powers that be unhappy, human rights don't matter. Otherwise they do. One always has the option to make oneself compatible with what the powers that be want one to be. Then there isn't much risk, in a way, except from petty criminals, because the definition of risk has been narrowed down. > these forums are dedicated to a particular piece of technology, and because > most subscribers are likely technology specialists. It's good to have > lateral experience of different domains, and also to bring-in people who > aren't technology specialists, so that their creative input can add extra > value to the discussions. I am from the technology domain by education and by profession/job, just not in the OS or Linux or network security domain. > One thought I've had is that changing business models, from closed-source, to > open-source, can sometimes be an effective security solution: if > you find people are stealing your software, just give it away for free, and > charge for customisation and support? That seems to be the best way, although as of today it is that successful. It goes back to politics etc. > Here in the UK, we have a pretty effective democracy where different groups > (including the general public) can lobby the government. As such, > the general public can lobby the government in order to get the government to > provide more effective cyber-security resources for the general > public. Not sure about America or India (India is perhaps where you are > based?). America are strong democracy advocates and India has the > largest democracy, but I don't know whether their democracies are in reality > broken systems.... I don't want to say much on this, but enough information is available online. All I can say is that, India, like in almost everything, is in a class by itself. It is also one of the most affected by the repeated states of exception, some global, some local, in the sense of Surveillance Capitalism, very closely tied to the state, across the political spectrum. In theory, privacy has recently been declared a fundamental right by the courts, but theory is just theory. Sometimes it furthers in practice the exact opposite of what it says, because you can always point to the theory and say everything is alright and the concerns are unwarranted etc. Now there is another unprecedented state of exception and the signs of what is to come are already there. Regards, अनिल एकलव्य (Anil Eklavya) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAAPfsu_H5D2zmTMEddoDL2H%3DU-XXLiQTAascf1s%2BUYvqnyzV%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com.
