Yeah, a more integrated BSD OS would be nice. Something like Windows tools. The only gui I'd be interested in though is macos.
In this case, I'm just running the cli and using the webapp for management. Sure it's a HVM and is more isolated and more resource hungry. Yet it's a lot like my stand alone pfSense box. It just works. And over the months I've gone back to my integration guide/script and refined it. Keep in mind that I answered the OP's question for the use case where "any" means a HVM with a CLI and using a webapp for "gui" management. The integration guide/script is optional for people wanting to replicate my implementation of pfSense/OPNsense. BTW, could you expound a little on your concern for xnf(4) (netfront) and xbf(4) (blkfront) drivers? Or point me to a reference? I wish to better understand your concern for threat vectors. On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 1:35:52 PM UTC-4 Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Sun, May 08, 2022 at 08:01:08PM -0700, J Holsapple wrote: > > I have pfSense (BSD) installed, and working fine for over 6 mos now, as > my > > network IDPS on the external interface. Went OCD and created a complete > > installation guide and integration script. > > It's a bit long and detailed but it works like a charm: > > https://github.com/jcholsap/freemod/issues/1#issue-1016495279 > > I managed to get an OpenBSD template sort of working a while back. I > was able to get networking and storage to work, and X11 worked via > emulated VGA, but I ultimately gave up because of some clashes on the > OpenBSD mailing lists. A proper integration would require substantial > additions to the OpenBSD kernel: > > - - nullfs (BSD version of bind mounts) for /home and /usr/local. The > workaround (a loopback NFS mount) is not something I would be okay > with for production use. > - - Hardened xnf(4) (netfront) and xbf(4) (blkfront) drivers. The current > drivers are not safe in the presence of malicious backends. > - - Userspace access to Xen event channels and grant tables, so that > libvchan and gui-agent can work. > > Additionally, a Xen-aware bootloader would be needed if booting other > than in HVM mode is desired. > - -- > Sincerely, > Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) > Invisible Things Lab > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmKD3PIACgkQsoi1X/+c > IsFFlA/+P76WfNwmIKDoTdoP3J9SQ1e5PQ+fMDF+phjeQmli4AB3MErGMUn0LcOX > kTT+8E0o/+OiUmEjKpPTlxhVWsXqDDwsbqqiipSg9mZBygWzoECXMP6g6Rd3I38F > WQV0Hpm2W0ha7a/oqPdlE5Kklnk76VTAdr6DhIlXvcAc31hEZklUdfUifRNAMmpQ > prKiNdwYBcC+k+PUMwITgzvwP2CgiUc+Hf8wDt7Hj+CjVoi9uVkg0lv4KSRQI9Dj > w3Dxvt6S59P86fPqfce7DwBnGM+hBHem/brkV+mrH+ZTmhSZLxW4DyT28x7/65JM > hgggZxiZ9Z6pfiavZ1CKQaArX+Yc7WzUpigLEZnv6dMZHysbEf44v4uD3T1tz77k > EPv4qtyEXGyKQplmuLWo+eoK8eJxDCHBly2fKef3QEtji+F9HWLs66oVpWyaT6r0 > IP5k8ew+oWTcLhgvu0mSKwztJWFaWzw4vmKD0X2vikGybXlKmICffD14OOPuVpL4 > gCbh/aU615glPMn+u1vhIYjGrbFZLi8/wCQCfI1rp4rX/ElzoVpA7SvCmc5Cy5b2 > oE+ylbLkxe5opfkkJICpCUNRbWDe0Do+54aKdJCQn4pl6qhAGMwI3nYPQ0jbM30y > /0lOYqwqYTlwiZFASIxATZYftUZMzddeNmFoV4fSUN14FCQ8tIU= > =gLNM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4aab4e5d-c2e1-41dd-9d63-e9c3f04ffce4n%40googlegroups.com.