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On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 11:15:45AM +0200, Bernhard wrote:
> On 7/6/22 10:02, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 12:27:11AM -0700, Peter Palensky wrote:
> > > Same here. Only 4.x and  5.4.175 kernel works for me (Dell hardware :-( ).
> > > I am afraid of losing that when updating...
> > 
> 
> You see the 4.1 ISO contains an "extrakernels" folder (empty). The
> question is: which files go there, and how modify the iso-boot procedure
> so that one were  allowed to select the kernel. Sounds like a reasonable
> feature, no?

It does.

> I failed on this: iso's are complicated, linux boot is complicated (and
> therefore abstracted out into software).
> 
> > Yeah, this really needs to be addressed.  Would it be possible to
> > bisect
> > between kernels 5.4.x and 5.10.x to see what went wrong?  The relevant
> > git tags are signed by Linus Torvalds or Greg Kroah-Hartman, and their
> > public keys are in the (signed) qubes-linux-kernel git repository.>
> 
> but as far as my dell hardware is concerned, 5.4 kernels are already
> unstable. I expect no gain from this! I guess adding the 4.19
> (extra)kernel to the iso is the least painful way to go.

What about between bisecting between 4.19 and 5.4?

The problem with staying on 4.19 is that eventually it will lose support
upstream.  Qubes is not RHEL, and we can't support an old kernel
forever.  That you cannot use your hardware on Linux 5.4+ is a bug, but
without access to the hardware in question there is no way (that I am
aware of) to figure out what the bug is so that it can be fixed.
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Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
Invisible Things Lab
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