In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Uwe Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >  Uwe Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>
> >>>I may need a Dual Mixer Time Difference (DMTD) instrument, to measure 
> >>>picosecond changes in electrical length in a coax plus amplifier time 
> >>>reference signal distribution system with total delays in the hundreds 
> >>>of nanoseconds, currently operating at 10 MHz (sinewave), but with 100 
> >>>MHz likely at some future date.
> >>>
> >>>What DMTD instruments are commercially available?  A google search was 
> >>>not successful - all noise no detectable signal, probably because DMTD 
> >>>instruments are not that common, and many people build their own.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Joe Gwinn
> >>
> >>Take one of the "better" GS DSO's that have high storage depth.
> >>Read the shots from the DSO and do all further processing in software?
> > 
> > 
> > I don't understand how this would work.  Could you expand the 
> > description?   And what is "GS"? 
> GS as in GigaSample
> >
> http://www.unusualresearch.com/AppNotes/TimeNuts/OptDualMixer.pdf
> http://www.wriley.com/paper6ht.htm
> 
> if my understanding is correct:
> take a large syncronous sampling of both signals.
> extract the data.
> retrace in software the math done in hardware on the aquired data set.
> i.e. if you do a soft mixdown to DC you should get two vectors (R/I)
> describing the phase relationship between both signals.

OK.  It sounds like what the 5120 does.  I be that there are a lot of 
details to get *exactly* right, though.

Joe Gwinn

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