Unruh wrote:
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Unruh wrote:
>>> "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>> There are other tools than NTPD.  One called "chrony" MAY meet your 
>>>> needs, or may not.  NTPD is very good at working over the Internet with 
>>>> its unpredictable queuing delays.  Chrony, as I understand it, is not so 
>>>> good at working over the internet.
>>> No idea where you get this from. chrony works over the internet at least as
>>> well as does ntpd. Its philosophy of dealing with different delays is
>>> different than ntp's( although it can be set up to be virtually identical)
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you can't keep your machines up 24x7, chrony MAY be a better tool. 
>>>> It's possible that you will need something else entirely.
>>> Possibly true. 
>>>
>>>
>>>> You may find that a hardware reference clock; e.g. a GPS timing 
>>>> receiver, will help.  With a GPS timing receiver, you will not be 
>>>> dependent on the internet for time sources.  NTPD will still need about 
>>>> thirty minutes to gain really tight synchronization.  Once gained, 
>>>> synchronization should be stable as long as the machine is up.
>>> Actually it is much worse than that. On my system, on bootup the clock
>>> frequency can very by up to about 50PPM due to a Linux bug. In general it
>>> takes ntp about 10 hours to regain tight synchronisation. (In that case it
>>> is microsecond since it is synching to a GPS, but it is also on poll level
>>> 4 so it has lots of data and should converge faster than some other system
>>> on poll level 6-10). David Mills has always insisted that ntpd is designed
>>> for stable long time operation, and rapidity of response is a distant 49th
>>> or so in priority. 
>>>
> 
>> My Solaris 8 SPARC system seems to be able to synch with the GPS 
>> receiver in about 30 minutes.  I may reboot that system once a year 
> 
> IF the frequency after reboot is very close to the frequency before (<1PPM
> say) and the clock has not drifter far out ( 1ms say) then sure. Otherwise
> it is a disaster.
> 
>> unless we have a power outrage that lasts longer than the UPS battery!
>> Absent something like a power failure there's no real reason to reboot 
>> it at all.
> 
> Well, no. Power supply intermittent failure can have you rebooting 10 times
> a week. (Yes, that is experience talking-- three weeks ago)
> 

Your power quality seems to be a LOT worse than mine.  It has been 
almost a year since the last time power went off here.  A guy a couple 
of blocks from here trimmed the trees that were in contact with the 
power lines and that has made a HUGE difference.

I have UPS for most of the machines in the house.  They never notice the 
brownouts and most of the blackouts!

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