On Dec 30, 12:32 pm, Unruh <[email protected]> wrote: > "Richard B. Gilbert" <[email protected]> writes: > > > > > > >Tim Shoppa wrote: > >> On Dec 29, 10:47 pm, [email protected] (Danny Mayer) wrote: > >>> Antonio, > > >>> If you are really from nic.br please use your email address from that > >>> domain. It is unacceptable to use a gmail account for such notifications. > > >>> Danny > > >> This is usenet, where anyone can set their "from" address to anything > >> they want, and posting with an E-mail address that is adequately spam- > >> filtered makes perfect sense. > > >> I'm not sure there's any real requirement that anyone has to announce > >> any particular e-mail address to run a NTP survey. He made the > >> methodology clear, said where the queries will be coming from, and I > >> think it's good that surveys continue and, like Antonio and his > >> collaborators do, they make the details and results public. > > >> Tim. > >There is no requirement that he even announce his survey! It is polite > >for him to do so but no more than that. > > Well, Under various laws he may be guilty of hacking/cracking/illegal use > fo computer time/... unless he gets permission. There has at least been a > strong feeling by many expressed that access does not imply permission. Ie, > just because the ntp port is open does not mean that anyone has permission > to use that port (eg is port scanning legal?). It is of course a complete > legal can of worms. > But announcing the survey here might be useable as a partial defense if > the worms wriggled out of the can.
Bill - NTP surveys are good things. NTP Surveys that publish their results are even better. A NTP client is a server. Port scanning is bad. Would somebody have to mount a criminal defense just because a ntpq or ntpd packet arrived somewhere with their return address? I hope not. All that said there is a sucky truth: a lot of the network monitoring software that network dweebs like to run, will kick out all port 123 traffic as third-degree security violations. Tim. _______________________________________________ questions mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
