On 10/24/2011 14:11, Chuck Swiger wrote:
On Oct 24, 2011, at 1:58 PM, A C wrote:
It has 16 MB of RAM right now (one stick).  It had 64 at one point while I was 
trying to diagnose this issue.  I thought I might have a bad stick of RAM so I 
was testing them one by one (one stick in the machine at a time).  I didn't 
reinsert the other three yet.  But it doesn't matter, even with 64 MB ntpd 
still crashes which is what started this whole debugging game in the first 
place.

If ntpd crashes, you should get a coredump which you can debug (assuming you've 
setup the coredumpsize limit to permit this) and perhaps a syslog message about 
a SIGSEGV, SIGBUS, or whatever.

Not if it locks the system up entirely (as in I couldn't even break out of the kernel) which is what had been happening. Turning off the priority on ntpd (eliminating the use of the -N flag) seems to avoid the system lock up issue but doesn't eliminate the ntpd lockup. The process just sat there yesterday not doing anything and bogging the machine down. The process itself doesn't die, there's no core to dump (yet), it just sits and sits and sits...


Besides, I wouldn't call an Xterm and Xclock anything significant in the way of 
X11 clients.  I'm certainly not intending to run anything beyond those.  The 
Xterm is for a console and the Xclock I was using to keep an eye on the machine 
so I'd know if the system locked up.

If you had 64MB of RAM, then the two clients wouldn't or shouldn't cause your 
system to swap.  With only 16MB, however, you're sure to be paging, and more 
likely to be swapping entire processes out to disk

Again, the amount of memory is a distraction from the issue because even with the 64 MB ntpd was having problems. But, I'll install the other three sticks this week when I have an opportunity which will mostly eliminate swapping issues.
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