Chris,

Thank you for these helpful advises. I am recalling many years ago there were 
such things as line transceivers that converted the signals from TTL-RS232 and 
backwards.  Do these still exist in the world and have you perhaps these part 
numbers?  I am thinking this is the only thing left to try. Except possibly 
changing the PPS pulse width.  Maybe with the Fat PPS board?  This is reminding 
me of the old days. Printers and Terminals! :)

R

From: Chris Albertson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 01 August 2012 16:40
To: Hahn, Ron
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] NTP + PPS on Atom motherboards

All Serial ports are spec'd for RS232 voltage levels but many of then will 
still work on TTL levels.    My guess (I'm guessing because you don't say) is 
that you are feeding the serial port a TTL level signal.    The Core 2 Duo 
might be fine with this but perhaps the Atom board need "real rs232" and you 
will have the level convert the TTL.

I also had a problem like yours and it turned out to be the serial cable.  I 
was using about 100 feet of the wrong kind of wire because it was already 
pulled through the walls and down two floors.   I found I needed to use a 
balanced rs422 signal to go that far reliably.   But I ended up moving the 
computer and using a 3 foot cable.  BTW I was using an Atom as well and found 
that I had to give the serial ports on that board a very clean in-spec RS232 
signal.

Guessing again, I doubt your ports are "bad" but they might be spec'd for rs232 
while the core 2 boards are over-spec'd.



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Hahn, Ron 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Colleagues,

I have been working for some time now trying to get four different Asus Atom 
motherboards to successfully work as a NTP stratum 1 server.  I am using the 
FreeBSD 8.3 OS with PPS compilation in the kernel, and the ntp-devel port 
(4.2.7p2?? version ntp).  Thanks to the David Taylor web site, I am using the 
Sure GPS boards to drive these motherboards and also his MRTG script to monitor 
these things too.

What I am seeing is that the time is off by almost 53,000uS on the MRTG graph 
and almost 500mS sometimes on the outputs of ntpq -c pe at times.  Other times 
it is a few uS from PPS.  I have been seeing this on three different boards 
(D525, D510, and 330 CPU) so this is repeating.  I was thinking this might be 
the tty port so I have tried both the tty ports and still the same.

I have used exactly the same recipe on a Core 2 Duo Tyan server and the times 
are maximally off by only +4uS/-2uS from PPS.  So I am thinking there is 
something fundamental wrong with the Atom boards.  I have repeated the 
experiments with a Pentium 4 server in another location and I am also seeing 
excellent timekeeping too.  I am thinking that maybe the Atom clock on the 
board is too consumer for these uses??

Has others experienced these difficulties with Atom motherboards as Stratum 1 
servers?

Thanks,

Ron
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