If you can, get a high speed scope (>10MHz) and put it on the end of the
line and see what voltages are coming out of the line to the serial
port.  You might find it is only a volt or less which is not enough to
drive the latches. 

On 2012-08-01, Hahn, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Thank you for these helpful advises. I am recalling many years ago there were 
> such things as line transceivers that converted the signals from TTL-RS232 
> and backwards.  Do these still exist in the world and have you perhaps these 
> part numbers?  I am thinking this is the only thing left to try. Except 
> possibly changing the PPS pulse width.  Maybe with the Fat PPS board?  This 
> is reminding me of the old days. Printers and Terminals! :)
>
> R
>
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 01 August 2012 16:40
> To: Hahn, Ron
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: NTP + PPS on Atom motherboards
>
> All Serial ports are spec'd for RS232 voltage levels but many of then will 
> still work on TTL levels.    My guess (I'm guessing because you don't say) is 
> that you are feeding the serial port a TTL level signal.    The Core 2 Duo 
> might be fine with this but perhaps the Atom board need "real rs232" and you 
> will have the level convert the TTL.
>
> I also had a problem like yours and it turned out to be the serial cable.  I 
> was using about 100 feet of the wrong kind of wire because it was already 
> pulled through the walls and down two floors.   I found I needed to use a 
> balanced rs422 signal to go that far reliably.   But I ended up moving the 
> computer and using a 3 foot cable.  BTW I was using an Atom as well and found 
> that I had to give the serial ports on that board a very clean in-spec RS232 
> signal.
>
> Guessing again, I doubt your ports are "bad" but they might be spec'd for 
> rs232 while the core 2 boards are over-spec'd.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Hahn, Ron 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Colleagues,
>
> I have been working for some time now trying to get four different Asus Atom 
> motherboards to successfully work as a NTP stratum 1 server.  I am using the 
> FreeBSD 8.3 OS with PPS compilation in the kernel, and the ntp-devel port 
> (4.2.7p2?? version ntp).  Thanks to the David Taylor web site, I am using the 
> Sure GPS boards to drive these motherboards and also his MRTG script to 
> monitor these things too.
>
> What I am seeing is that the time is off by almost 53,000uS on the MRTG graph 
> and almost 500mS sometimes on the outputs of ntpq -c pe at times.  Other 
> times it is a few uS from PPS.  I have been seeing this on three different 
> boards (D525, D510, and 330 CPU) so this is repeating.  I was thinking this 
> might be the tty port so I have tried both the tty ports and still the same.
>
> I have used exactly the same recipe on a Core 2 Duo Tyan server and the times 
> are maximally off by only +4uS/-2uS from PPS.  So I am thinking there is 
> something fundamental wrong with the Atom boards.  I have repeated the 
> experiments with a Pentium 4 server in another location and I am also seeing 
> excellent timekeeping too.  I am thinking that maybe the Atom clock on the 
> board is too consumer for these uses??
>
> Has others experienced these difficulties with Atom motherboards as Stratum 1 
> servers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
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>
> Chris Albertson
> Redondo Beach, California

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