Folks,

It was a compliment!

                           Ron




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From: Lucas Pardue <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:21 PM
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Cc: Ron Bonica <[email protected]>; QUIC WG <[email protected]>; 
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-quic-transport-32

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Hi,

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 4:35 PM Behcet Sarikaya 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:28 AM Ron Bonica via Datatracker 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Reviewer: Ron Bonica
Review result: Ready

Amazingly complete. I am sure that a naive implementer can code from this.

You nailed it Ron.

I think this is a problem generally in Quic specs.
They are written for implementers.


I read Ron's comment as a compliment, not a complaint.

A protocol specification should not be an implementation spec.
I think this is a deep issue maybe most Quic people do not appreciate because 
it seems those people are mostly implementers.


The specs have been in development since the QUIC WG was chartered in 2016. Can 
you point me to the GitHub issues that were raised to address the deep issues 
you hint at? Now is a great time to remind people that the WG is in parallel 
working on draft-ietf-quic-manageability [1], its intended audience is network 
operators and I'm sure that Mirja and Brian would appreciate more reviews.

Cheers
Lucas
QUIC WG Co-chair

[1] - 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-manageability-08<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-manageability-08__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!RMV5WFfKMS698-wK5ktX0HpdUEjZyCopB69erusSYE5miVm4WEgRkaEiEXiO8c07$>


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