I can get greater than -7v without a 50-ohm terminator but not with
it.  From what I can measure with an HP-410C, the HP-8640B needs the
terminator to accurately reflect the voltage on its meter and,
therefore, I should be using the terminator for this.

Of course, I could most likely get that output with, perhaps, 225uv
and I may try that just to see how I like it.

I need to do some voltage and resistance checks in the IF deck.  I
haven't done that yet and I suspect there are some drifted resistors.
If not that, then I could have some weak tubes.  I'll know more once I
run some checks.

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ
Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 10:52 PM Larry Haney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Barry,  If your 390 is in correct working order then Chuck's short cut is 
> good to use.  But if you are not positive that it is working correctly, then 
> use the '55 tech ref method you ref'd.  And, the IF input is not low 
> impedance, so the sig gen output will need to have a 50 ohm load on it and 
> the gain adjust must not be at the ends of its adjustment.
>
> Regards, Larry
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 7:49 PM Barry Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, that's the 1955 version that I was referring to where it
>> describes using the IF input and a 30% modulated 455kc signal at 150uV
>> to produce -7.0V at the Diode Load.  The later paper manual I have
>> from 1962 uses the antenna input for this.  Chuck Rippel's method uses
>> strictly the noise level and the LINE GAIN meter to set it.  I'm a bit
>> confused as to what's the best way.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barry - N4BUQ
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 8:56 PM Jim Whartenby via R-390
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > https://bama.edebris.com/download/military/r390/Collins_R390_1953.pdf
>> >
>> > Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.  
>> > Murphy
>> >
>> >     On Friday, October 11, 2024 at 06:16:31 PM CDT, Barry Scott 
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >  Looking at the older (1955) vs newer (1962) manuals for the R-390/URR,
>> > the older one describes setting the GAIN ADJ pot using input directly
>> > into the IF deck; whereas the newer one describes setting it using the
>> > antenna input jack.  Is one method any better or preferred to the
>> > other?
>> >
>> > One of the reasons I'm asking is that when I try the direct input to
>> > the IF deck method, I can't get -0,7V on the Diode Load which makes me
>> > think I have a gain problem in the IF deck.
>> >
>> > I know there were several posts about this over the years but I've
>> > lost track of those for the most part so I thought I'd ask.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Barry - N4BUQ
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