Evidently, there are a lot of lurkers in the membership who have no opinion on
a move to groups.io. Perhaps those that have asked questions or answered posts
in the last year or so will determine if there is to be a move or not? A quick
look at the archive, sorted by author, will give you a good idea of who is
active on this list.
I use DuckDuckGo for my posts and find that all of the formatting gets stripped
from my posts so the post is just one long run-on sentence or paragraph. This
makes things harder to read and is a bit frustrating when I forget that mailman
does not like DuckDuckGo. So I am in favor of the upgrade.
Regards,
Jim
Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
Murphy
On Saturday, June 20, 2026 at 09:00:43 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS via R-390
<[email protected]> wrote:
So far there have only been 35 respondents with the overwhelming majority
favorable for the move. A small number (<4) would prefer to keep things as
they are. I'm not sure what threshold we should target for making this
decision but like most elections in our society, those who fail to vote lose
their voice in such decisions. The list currently has 507 members, or at
least valid email addresses, with only 32 members marked for no mail or
digest delivery. It is difficult to estimate truly 'active' members, but
unused emails do expire. Gmail for example has a 2y inactivity (sender
side) limit at which point any emails to that address will be rejected
(bounced back to sender). Yahoo email has a 12-month inactivity policy and
all other email service providers have something similar. I routinely
receive notifications regarding bounced emails from our [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> server and after 10 consecutive failed
bounces I remove that person from the distribution list so the (507 - 32)
cannot be too stale an estimate.
My proposal is to wait 2 weeks as some may be on vacation/holiday/illness
and revisit the final count at that point. Interestingly, there is no fee
for small groups < 100 at Groups.IO for basic messaging/archiving. In any
case, I would not close the mailman.qth.net list but rather continue sending
out a single monthly broadcast to the list pointing people to find us on the
new groups.io link.
Suggestions/comments are welcome !!
Jerry NY2KW (ex-K1JOS, ex-WB2ORJ)
From: JOS K1JOS <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 7:34 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO
There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to
inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly
interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust
searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year.
If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move
forward.
All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome.
Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header
need not reply again.
Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/
Thanks to all !
Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator
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