I vote NO change for the following reasons: - Traffic on the group has been very light for the past few years. Most of what needed to be discussed has been said, just not everyone has said it yet.
- Let's face it: the group largely consists older persons who won't be around much longer. If Interest was increasing, a change to a modern list service would be more justified. - Someone has to collect and pay the $250 groups.io fee each year, a thankless task. If each of the 500+ current subscribers gave $5 today, that would cover the groups.io fee for 10 years. That's not gonna happen. I doubt that 10% would pony up. Priorities change when people have to actually pay, even a nominal amount. - Conversions always result in confusion for some. I anticipate plenty of unnecessary traffic about dealing the change. - I subscribe to multiple qth.net groups and contribute $$ each year to support them. I don't have a problem with how the reflector operates. Yes, I'm a grumpy old guy but I ask you to consider my points and argue them if you disagree. --... ...-- Dave N9ZC On Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 9:54 AM Andy G8JAC via R-390 <[email protected]> wrote: > I am one of the long-term Lurkers on the list - one from across the Pond. > I joined perhaps 20 years ago when I bought my first (and so far only) > R-390A and needed to learn about the receiver and the technology of its era. > In the face of the expertise of the list members I could contribute > little, but I learned a lot. And my Motorola R-390A works very well as a > result. > > Here in UK I am a member of several groups that use Groups.IO and foresee > absolutely no problems with this fraternity moving there. The platform > works, is configurable to your tastes and has been reliable. > > My vote therefore is yes, do it. > > Andy G8JAC > Surrey, England. (Where it's currently way hotter than Miami) > > > > > > > Evidently, there are a lot of lurkers in the membership who have no > opinion on a move to groups.io. Perhaps those that have asked questions > or answered posts in the last year or so will determine if there is to be a > move or not? A quick look at the archive, sorted by author, will give you > a good idea of who is active on this list. > > I use DuckDuckGo for my posts and find that all of the formatting gets > stripped from my posts so the post is just one long run-on sentence or > paragraph. This makes things harder to read and is a bit frustrating when > I forget that mailman does not like DuckDuckGo. So I am in favor of the > upgrade. > > Regards, > Jim > > Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with > confidence. Murphy > > On Saturday, June 20, 2026 at 09:00:43 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS via R-390 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > So far there have only been 35 respondents with the overwhelming majority > favorable for the move. A small number (<4) would prefer to keep things as > they are. I'm not sure what threshold we should target for making this > decision but like most elections in our society, those who fail to vote > lose their voice in such decisions. The list currently has 507 members, or > at least valid email addresses, with only 32 members marked for no mail or > digest delivery. It is difficult to estimate truly 'active' members, but > unused emails do expire. Gmail for example has a 2y inactivity (sender > side) limit at which point any emails to that address will be rejected > (bounced back to sender). Yahoo email has a 12-month inactivity policy and > all other email service providers have something similar. I routinely > receive notifications regarding bounced emails from our > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> server and after 10 > consecutive failed bounces I remove that person from the distribution list > so the (507 - 32) cannot be too stale an estimate. > > > > My proposal is to wait 2 weeks as some may be on vacation/holiday/illness > and revisit the final count at that point. Interestingly, there is no fee > for small groups < 100 at Groups.IO for basic messaging/archiving. In any > case, I would not close the mailman.qth.net list but rather continue > sending out a single monthly broadcast to the list pointing people to find > us on the new groups.io link. > > > > Suggestions/comments are welcome !! > > > > Jerry NY2KW (ex-K1JOS, ex-WB2ORJ) > > > > > > From: JOS K1JOS <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 7:34 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > > > > There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to > inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly > interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust > searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year. > If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move > forward. > > > > All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. > > > > Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header > need not reply again. > > > > Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ > > > > Thanks to all ! > > > > Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > R-390 mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > R-390 mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > R-390 mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ R-390 mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
