A wild guess, based on some recent "non-deterministic" behavior in
lme4: could this be driven by a bug in optimized linear algebra libraries
(BLAS/LAPACK)? (Unfortunately, I'm not clear on how to check the versions
of BLAS/LAPACK being used and whether they are subject to bugs,
but perhaps someone else can comment ...)
Ben Bolker
Adam D. I. Kramer-2 wrote:
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> Hi Jeff,
>
> =09As mentioned in my message, I *did* replicate on another platform.=20
> One platform was running linux in a VM, the other running MacOSX, on two
> different physical machines. The problem did not replicate on a PowerPC
> box, so if it is a bug with intel chips, I think it's also appropriate to
> report here given that the problem seems to cross the OS boundary. I do
> no=
> t
> have access to a Windows machine.
>
> =09Also, I have spent a decent amount of time running memory testers on
> the first machine's memory, to ensure that physical memory is not a
> problem...the classic "memcheck" program finds no trouble.
>
> =09The CSV and .ram files both came through as base-64-encoded
> attachments, which you actually quoted back to me in your response,
> below...but in case your mail client can't read those and/or you are
> interested in this bug, I have pasted them at the end of this message
> (sinc=
> e
> they're quite small).
>
> =09And thanks for the shout-out for bacon. I bought this domain name in
> undergrad many years ago, and I must say, I've never regretted it!
>
> --Adam
>
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jeff Ryan wrote:
>
>> Adam,
>>
>> It seems that your attachment didn't make it through.
>>
>> That aside, my experience with strange errors like those (random type
>> not implemented ones) has been that you may be looking at a memory
>> problem on you machine. Given that you can't replicate on another
>> platform (and the .csv file didn't come through), I would think it
>> wise to start there.
>>
>> My 2c. And I love bacon too :)
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:10 PM, <a...@ilovebacon.org> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0There appears to be a bug in the nlm function, which I
>>> di=
> scovered
>>> when trying to run an SEM. =A0The SEM is not bizarre; the covariance
>>> mat=
> rix is
>>> solve-able and the eigenvalues are greater than zero, and I do not
>>> belie=
> ve
>>> the "sem" package per se to be the problem (as nlm keeps being the part
>>> =
> that
>>> fails, though I can't replicate this with other nlm tasks). =A0I
>>> apologi=
> ze if
>>> I have put too many much information in this message; I'm not a
>>> programm=
> er
>>> by trade so I don't really know what's going on here, which hampers my
>>> ability to write consise bug reports.
>>>
>>> Here is the code I use:
>>>
>>> library(sem)
>>> ice.S <- read.csv("iceS.csv") # attached
>>> rownames(ice.S) <- ice.S[,1]
>>> ice.S[,1] <- NULL
>>> ice.S <- as.matrix(ice.S)
>>> ice.ram <- specify.model("ice.ram") # attached
>>> ice.N <- 342
>>> ice.sem <- sem(ram=3Dice.ram, S=3Dice.S, N=3Dice.N)
>>>
>>> ...at this point, any number of problems could occur. I have seen the
>>> following.
>>>
>>> 1) Simple lack of convergence. (might be my model's fault.)
>>> 2) Error in nlm(if (analytic.gradient) objective.2 else objective.1,
>>> sta=
> rt,
>>> :
>>> =A0 type 31 is unimplemented in 'type2char'
>>> 3) =A0*** caught segfault ***
>>> address 0xc019c87b, cause 'memory not mapped'
>>>
>>> Traceback:
>>> =A01: nlm(if (analytic.gradient) objective.2 else objective.1, start,
>>> hessian =3D TRUE, iterlim =3D maxiter, print.level =3D if (debug) 2
>>> else=
> 0,
>>> typsize =3D typsize, ...)
>>> =A02: sem.default(ram =3D ram, S =3D S, N =3D N, param.names =3D pars,
>>> v=
> ar.names =3D
>>> vars, =A0 =A0 fixed.x =3D fixed.x, debug =3D debug, ...)
>>> =A03: sem(ram =3D ram, S =3D S, N =3D N, param.names =3D pars,
>>> var.names=
> =3D vars,
>>> fixed.x =3D fixed.x, debug =3D debug, ...)
>>> =A04: sem.mod(ram =3D ice.ram, S =3D ice.S, N =3D ice.N)
>>> =A05: sem(ram =3D ice.ram, S =3D ice.S, N =3D ice.N)
>>>
>>> Possible actions:
>>> 1: abort (with core dump, if enabled)
>>> 2: normal R exit
>>> 3: exit R without saving workspace
>>> 4: exit R saving workspace
>>> Selection: 1
>>> aborting ...
>>> Segmentation fault
>>> swiss:data$
>>>
>>> (no core was dumped).
>>>
>>> Trying with debug mode provides other interesting errors:
>>>
>>>> ice.sem <- sem(ram=3Dice.ram, S=3Dice.S, N=3Dice.N, debug=3DTRUE)
>>>
>>> ...gets up to some iteration (not always 15), and then R dies
>>> ungraceful=
> ly,
>>> and exits to the shell:
>>>
>>> iteration =3D 15
>>> Step:
>>> =A0[1] =A01.253132e-02 =A01.183343e-02 -7.651342e-03 -2.490800e-03
>>> =A02.=
> 278938e-03
>>> =A0[6] =A03.197431e-04 =A06.137849e-04 -2.496882e-03 -1.065829e-03
>>> -2.11=
> 8179e-03
>>> [11] =A02.942936e-03 -1.335936e-03 -3.665618e-03 =A03.090566e-03
>>> =A08.53=
> 4956e-04
>>> [16] -1.440421e-03 -5.230877e-04 -1.053686e-04 -9.771005e-04
>>> -4.269216e-=
> 04
>>> [21] =A07.261694e-05 -1.039668e-03 -8.409151e-03 -3.497456e-03
>>> =A02.2168=
> 99e-03
>>> [26] -4.633520e-03 -4.052130e-03 -4.746537e-03 -1.589622e-03
>>> -2.523766e-=
> 04
>>> Parameter:
>>> =A0[1] -0.76604614 -1.19639662 =A00.83456888 =A00.72540413
>>> =A00.08482452=
> =A00.56180393
>>> =A0[7] =A00.50615814 =A00.55728015 =A00.83796696 =A00.88371335
>>> -0.704651=
> 16 =A00.85251098
>>> [13] -0.18346956 =A00.66857787 =A00.57012481 =A00.39116561
>>> =A00.91237990=
> =A00.63951482
>>> [19] =A00.26601566 =A00.29240836 =A00.44710919 =A00.94734056
>>> =A06.520390=
> 15 =A00.02524762
>>> [25] -0.01614603 =A02.88198219 =A00.03442452 =A03.52272237
>>> =A01.44698423=
> -0.72964745
>>> Function Value
>>> [1] -15175.94
>>> Gradient:
>>> =A0[1] -2.085412e+07 -3.819717e+07 =A03.883989e+07 =A01.352594e+00
>>> -4.28=
> 3329e+00
>>> =A0[6] -1.437250e+00 -6.558913e-01 =A01.358276e+00 =A07.930865e+05
>>> -1.29=
> 3853e+06
>>> [11] -5.816627e+03 =A05.908197e+05 -2.705742e+08 -1.194400e+07
>>> -4.007083=
> e+07
>>> [16] -4.143068e+07 -6.159782e-01 =A01.044274e-01 -8.591048e+00
>>> -2.083471=
> e+00
>>> [21] -7.548753e-01 -5.418994e-01 -2.799228e+02 -1.321739e+07
>>> -3.517728e+=
> 07
>>> [26] -7.106654e+02 -7.335293e+06 -7.335285e+05 =A03.117764e-01
>>> -2.234989=
> e+04
>>>
>>> Abort trap
>>> swiss:data$
>>>
>>> ...I have also seen convergence reached, and nlm then die with this
>>> mess=
> age:
>>>
>>> Error in nlm(if (analytic.gradient) objective.2 else objective.1, start,
>>> :
>>> =A0 type 27 is unimplemented in 'type2char'
>>>
>>> (similar to above, but now referring to type 27)
>>>
>>> I have shown this effect (or something similar...never know how it'll
>>> fa=
> il
>>> next) on the following platforms:
>>>
>>>> version
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0_
>>> platform =A0 =A0 =A0 i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
>>> arch =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 i386
>>> os =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 darwin9.7.0
>>> system =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 i386, darwin9.7.0
>>> status
>>> major =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02
>>> minor =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.1
>>> year =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2009
>>> month =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A006
>>> day =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A026
>>> svn rev =A0 =A0 =A0 =A048839
>>> language =A0 =A0 =A0 R
>>> version.string R version 2.9.1 (2009-06-26)
>>>
>>>> sessionInfo()
>>> R version 2.9.1 (2009-06-26)
>>> i386-apple-darwin9.8.0
>>>
>>> locale:
>>> en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8
>>>
>>> attached base packages:
>>> [1] stats =A0 =A0 graphics =A0grDevices utils =A0 =A0 datasets
>>> =A0method=
> s =A0 base
>>>
>>> other attached packages:
>>> [1] sem_0.9-17
>>>
>>> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
>>> [1] tcltk_2.9.1 tools_2.9.1
>>>
>>> (I admit to having compiled this version of R myself (to link to a
>>> hand-compiled ATLAS), though no errors were thrown in the compilation
>>> st=
> age.
>>> I compiled using this config string, at first...
>>>
>>> ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --with-x --disable-R-framework
>>> --enabl=
> e-threads=3Dposix --with-blas=3D"/usr/local/lib/libptf77blas.a
> /usr/local/l=
> ib/libptcblas.a /usr/local/lib/libatlas.a -lpthread"
> --with-lapack=3D"/usr/=
> local/lib/liblapack.a /usr/local/lib/libptf77blas.a
> /usr/local/lib/libptcbl=
> as.a /usr/local/lib/libatlas.a -lpthread" --without-aqua CFLAGS=3D"-O3
> -mtu=
> ne=3Dnocona -m32" CXXFLAGS=3D"-O3 -mtune=3Dnocona -m32" FFLAGS=3D"-O3
> -mtun=
> e=3Dnocona -m32 -L/usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin9/4.2.1 -l gfortran"
> F77FLA=
> GS=3D"-O3 -mtune=3Dnocona -m32 -L/usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin9/4.2.1 -l
> g=
> fortran" FCFLAGS=3D"-O3 -mtune=3Dnocona -m32
> -L/usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darw=
> in9/4.2.1 -l gfortran" LDFLAGS=3D"-m32 -L/sw/lib"
> CPPFLAGS=3D"-I/sw/include=
> " CC=3Dgcc-4.2 F77=3Dgfortran-4.2 FC=3Dgfortran-4.2 CXX=3Dg++-4.2
> OBJC=3Dgc=
> c-4.2
>>>
>>> ...though I have also recompiled using simply this:
>>>
>>> ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --with-x --disable-R-framework
>>>
>>> ...and then re-installed SEM, and I got a few other, different error
>>> messages and core dumps, "including type 11 is unimplemented in
>>> 'type2ch=
> ar'"
>>> and "cannot coerce type 'weakref' to vector of type 'double'".
>>> =A0Runnin=
> g with
>>> debug=3DTRUE also segfaults sometimes, even after achieving "Current
>>> ite=
> rate
>>> is probably solution" status.)
>>>
>>>> version
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0_
>>> platform =A0 =A0 =A0 x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>> arch =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86_64
>>> os =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 linux-gnu
>>> system =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86_64, linux-gnu
>>> status
>>> major =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02
>>> minor =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.1
>>> year =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2009
>>> month =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A006
>>> day =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A026
>>> svn rev =A0 =A0 =A0 =A048839
>>> language =A0 =A0 =A0 R
>>> version.string R version 2.9.1 (2009-06-26)
>>>
>>>> sessionInfo()
>>> R version 2.9.1 (2009-06-26)
>>> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>
>>> locale:
>>> LC_CTYPE=3Den_US;LC_NUMERIC=3DC;LC_TIME=3Den_US;LC_COLLATE=3Den_US;LC_MO=
> NETARY=3DC;LC_MESSAGES=3Den_US;LC_PAPER=3Den_US;LC_NAME=3DC;LC_ADDRESS=3DC;=
> LC_TELEPHONE=3DC;LC_MEASUREMENT=3Den_US;LC_IDENTIFICATION=3DC
>>>
>>> attached base packages:
>>> [1] stats =A0 =A0 graphics =A0grDevices utils =A0 =A0 datasets
>>> =A0method=
> s =A0 base
>>>
>>> other attached packages:
>>> [1] sem_0.9-17
>>>
>>> ...however, THIS platform does NOT show the bug:
>>>
>>>> version
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0_
>>> platform =A0 =A0 =A0 powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu
>>> arch =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 powerpc
>>> os =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 linux-gnu
>>> system =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 powerpc, linux-gnu
>>> status
>>> major =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02
>>> minor =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.1
>>> year =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2009
>>> month =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A006
>>> day =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A026
>>> svn rev =A0 =A0 =A0 =A048839
>>> language =A0 =A0 =A0 R
>>> version.string R version 2.9.1 (2009-06-26)
>>>> sessionInfo()
>>> R version 2.9.1 (2009-06-26)
>>> powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>
>>> locale:
>>> LC_CTYPE=3Den_US.UTF-8;LC_NUMERIC=3DC;LC_TIME=3Den_US.UTF-8;LC_COLLATE=
> =3Den_US.UTF-8;LC_MONETARY=3DC;LC_MESSAGES=3Den_US.UTF-8;LC_PAPER=3Den_US.U=
> TF-8;LC_NAME=3DC;LC_ADDRESS=3DC;LC_TELEPHONE=3DC;LC_MEASUREMENT=3Den_US.UTF=
> -8;LC_IDENTIFICATION=3DC
>>>
>>> attached base packages:
>>> [1] stats =A0 =A0 graphics =A0grDevices utils =A0 =A0 datasets
>>> =A0method=
> s =A0 base
>>>
>>> other attached packages:
>>> [1] sem_0.9-17
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...for this system, the model simply repeatedly fails to converge,
>>> wheth=
> er
>>> debug is set or not.
>>>
>>> I have also tried altering my model. This has resulted in the same
>>> bugs,=
> but
>>> instead of "every so often simply not converging," it actually
>>> converges=
> and
>>> appears to be the model I asked R to solve...but this is rare.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if I can provide any other info.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Adam D. I. Kramer
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>>> --1660387551-1458482416-1249639718=3D:2997--
>>>
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>> Jeffrey Ryan
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>> ia: insight algorithmics
>> www.insightalgo.com
>>
>
> CSV:
>
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>
> RAM:
>
> important <-- challenge, NA, 1
> complex <-- challenge, c.complex, NA
> difficult <-- challenge, c.difficult, NA
> manydimensions <-- challenge, c.manydimensions, NA
> couldavoid <-- challenge, c.couldavoid, NA
> onlyself <-- challenge, c.onlyself, NA
>
> wasrightchoice <-- eval, NA, 1
> tellgood <-- eval, e.tellgood, NA
> tellbest <-- eval, e.tellbest, NA
> negoutcome <-- eval, e.negoutcome, NA
>
> equalinfo <-- informed, NA, 1
> control <-- informed, i.control, NA
> desired <-- informed, i.desired, NA
> howmuchinfo <-- informed, i.howmuchinfo, NA
> posoutcome <-- informed, i.posoutcome, NA
>
> wasrightchoice <-> wasrightchoice, wasrightchoiceV, NA
> tellgood <-> tellgood, tellgoodV, NA
> tellbest <-> tellbest, tellbestV, NA
> negoutcome <-> negoutcome, negoutcomeV, NA
>
> onlyself <-> onlyself, onlyselfV, NA
> important <-> important, importantV, NA
> complex <-> complex, complexV, NA
> difficult <-> difficult, difficultV, NA
> manydimensions <-> manydimensions, manydimensionsV, NA
> couldavoid <-> couldavoid, couldavoidV, NA
>
> equalinfo <-> equalinfo, equalinfoV, NA
> control <-> control, controlV, NA
> desired <-> desired, desiredV, NA
> howmuchinfo <-> howmuchinfo, howmuchinfoV, NA
> posoutcome <-> posoutcome, posoutcomeV, NA
>
> eval <-> eval, evalV, NA
> challenge <-> challenge, challengeV, NA
> informed <-> informed, informedV, NA
> --1660387551-150661043-1249684349=:2997--
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