At 01:08 20/08/2010, Spencer Graves wrote:
What do you think about adding a "No RTFM" policy to the R mailing lists? Per, "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM":

Spencer,
You raise an interesting point but the responses to your post remind us that people (and indeed whole cultures) are not all situated at the same point on the continuum of directness between "It's a cow, stupid" and "From this side it looks not unlike a cow". The issue of what is offensive is even more complex, I remember being taken to task on another list for referring to a "rule of thumb".

The thing I find most rude on the list is not the occasional abrupt postings by people who are obviously having a bad day but the number of fairly long exchanges which end unresolved as the OP never bothers to post a conclusion and we never know whether we solved his/her problem. I am not asking for thanks but we would all benefit from knowing how it all turned out.


The Ubuntu Forums and LinuxQuestions.org, for instance, have instituted "no RTFM" policies to promote a welcoming atmosphere.[8][9].

RTFM [and] "Go look on google" are two inappropriate responses to a question. If you don't know the answer or don't wish to help, please say nothing instead of brushing off someone's question. Politely showing someone how you searched or obtained the answer to a question is acceptable, even encouraged.
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If you wish to remind a user to use search tools or other resources when they have asked a question you feel is basic or common, please be very polite. Any replies for help that contain language disrespectful towards the user asking the question, i.e. "STFU" or "RTFM" are unacceptable and will not be tolerated. —Ubuntu Forums


Gavin Simpson and I recently provided examples answering a question from "r.ookie" that had previously elicited responses, ""You want us to read the help page to you?" and "It yet again appears that you are asking us to read the help pages for you."


I can appreciate the sentiment in fortunes('rtfm'). In this case, however, "r.ookie" had RTFM (and said so), but evidently the manual was not sufficiently clear.


Best Wishes,
Spencer Graves



Michael Dewey
http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk

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