On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 9:48 PM Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote: > > > > On Feb 11, 2025, at 5:23 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <e...@debian.org> wrote: > > > > > > On 10 February 2025 at 07:35, Carl Boettiger wrote: > > | Great discussion. > > | > > | Just to note another example I don't think was mentioned -- The r-universe > > | project also builds binaries for Linux (Ubuntu latest) https:// > > | docs.r-universe.dev/install/binaries.html (as well as other targets > > including > > | wasm). It also provides binaries for Bioconductor and packages on any > > | git-based version control platform (e.g. GitHub). > > > > Yes ... but these are 'naked' binaries as created by 'R CMD INSTALL --build' > > but without system integration (and as such mirror what p3m.dev does). This > > has its merits (it is simpler, can cover more OS variants) but it is also > > more limited. > > > > What we (ie Detlef, Inaki, myself) myself do for the distros is > > fundamentally > > different. Both are merits, both can coexist, but I like the added 'oomph' > > you get by integrating properly with the distribution you deploy on. Ubuntu > > is a pretty useful base case. > > > > > In case it wasn't clear - precisely this was my point, and I was counting on > all those doing the hard work already like Dirk to speak up (thanks, Dirk and > Iñaki). I'm not convinced that "naked" binaries are that useful, so just > creating a new subdirectory isn't a solution IMHO. It works for some cases, > but not in general - many can build their specific binaries, but it doesn't > mean they work for others.
The "naked binaries" are widely used, and therefore probably useful to many folks, me included. Some standardisation on paths would be incredibly useful, even if CRAN would not offer such binaries, other repositories could. Note that Dirks apt packages are literally repackaged binaries form p3m, for convenience of ubuntu (root) users. As Dirk noted, some people prefer installing binaries via apt rather than install.packages(), which is all fine, but methods both have pros and cons. However, any arguments against p3m based on TOS or compatibility will extend to the repackaged apt binaries, so I don't think that argument holds. ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
