>>>>> "Frank" == Frank E Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:45 -0600 writes:
Frank> Matthew Keller wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one
>> that I imagine most people who use R have come
>> across. The name "R" is a big impediment to effective
>> online searches. As a check, I entered "R software", "SAS
>> software", SPSS software", and "S+ software" into
>> google. The R 'hit rate' was only ten out of the first 20
>> results (I didn't look any further). For the other three
>> software packages, the hit rates were all 100% (20/20).
>>
>> I do wonder if anything can/should be done about this. I
>> generally search using the term "CRAN" but of course,
>> that omits lots of stuff relevant to R. Any ideas about
>> how to do effective online searches for "R" related
>> materials?
I don't think we (the R foundation) will ever change away from
"R"..
>>
>> Matt
Frank> I just googled for "R" and www.r-project.org was the
Frank> first hit. Don't see a problem at present.
We are getting really off-topic, but that's interesting:
We all know that Google is helping the Chinese government to
censor their own people, so searches there can lead to
completely different results. But even here in Zurich
Switzerland, I get quite a different hitlist :
1) stat.ethz.ch/~statsoft/stat.programme/R.html [in German]
2) Our local CRAN mirror: stat.ethz.ch/CRAN/
3) R - (German-language) Wikipedia about letter "R": de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R
4) DVD-R - (German-language) Wikipedia de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R
5) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/
So 3/5 are related to R which sounds good, but actually these 3
are all from the first twenty: 3/20.
Martin
>> On 2/6/07, Wensui Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+
>>> since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with
>>> no success. I am wondering if there is something that
>>> can be done to promote the use of R in industry.
>>>
>>> It's been very frustrating to see people doing
>>> statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to
>>> see people paying $$$ for something much inferior to R.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/6/07, Doran, Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> The other day, CNN had a story on working at
>>>> Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google
>>>> employment web site (I'm not looking, but just
>>>> curious). In perusing their job posts for
>>>> statisticians, preference is given to those who use R
>>>> and python. Other languages, S-Plus and something
>>>> called SAS were listed as lower priorities.
>>>>
>>>> When I started using Python, I noted they have a
>>>> portion of the web site with job postings. CRAN does
>>>> not have something similar, but think it might be
>>>> useful. I think R is becoming more widely used in
>>>> industry and I wonder if helping it move along a bit,
>>>> the maintainer of CRAN could create a section of the
>>>> web site devoted to jobs where R is a requirement.
>>>>
>>>> Hence, we could have our own little "monster.com" kind
>>>> of thing going on. Of the multitude of ways the gospel
>>>> can be spread, this is small. But, I think every small
>>>> step forward is good.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone think this is useful?
>>>>
>>>> Harold
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> WenSui Liu A lousy statistician who happens to know a
>>> little programming
>>> (http://spaces.msn.com/statcompute/blog)
>>>
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Frank> Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt
Frank> University
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