On Jul 5, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:

> thank you again.
> 
> I have a request for Simon.
> 
> On the windows machines, the R and Windows FAQ are both in
> c:/Program Files/R/R-2.15.1/doc
> Hence I looked for the Mac FAQ in the same place as the R FAQ on Mac.
> 
> On windows, searchpaths() gives a list of items like
> "c:/Program Files/R/R-2.15.1/library/base"
> which gives a starting directory in which to look.
> 
> On the Mac, search paths() gives
> "/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Resources/library/base"
> which in this case was not helpful for finding the Mac FAQ.
> 
> Can you set up a symbolic link from
> /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/2.15/Resources/doc
> to point to /Applications/R.app/Contents/Resources?

No, because it is not fixed. The FAQ is part of the GUI and thus in the GUI 
bundle. It has nothing to do with R and R can exist (and does) without the GUI 
so you can't link to it from R. It is trivially accessible directly form the 
Help menu - I don't see how it can be more obvious=.


> That will make it easier for the next person converting from windows to mac.
> 

Well, it certainly doesn't make sense to introduce Windows idiosyncrasies to 
Mac - if you convert to Mac you will need to buy into the "just-works" 
philosophy. If you are trying to recreate your Windows environment, you have 
already failed and should go back :).

Cheers,
Simon


> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:59 AM, David Winsemius <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
> 
>> It is interesting to compare working styles.  I am not "up to" anything.  I 
>> am trying
>> to recreate in Mac the standard working style I use in R on windows and also 
>> in S-Plus on windows.  I just keep the complete graph history until it 
>> complains about lack of memory.
>> In S-Plus, it is possible to delete individual plots.  In R on windows I 
>> haven't found an easy
>> way to do that, so I just delete the R object containing the entire history. 
>>  When I adjust
>> arguments to xyplot or plot it is very helpful to be able to back up and see 
>> what the previous
>> incarnation of the graph looked like.
>> 
>> Where is "R MacOSX FAQ"?  I don't see it on my computer inside 
>> /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/
>> I am using R-2.15.1 from CRAN.
> 
> I use the Help menu in the GUI when I want to look at it. It will also be the 
> first google hit on search using " r mac faq".
> 
> A bit of messing around with links in the displayed copy shows that I am 
> looking at:
> 
> file:///Applications/R64.app/Contents/Resources/RMacOSX-FAQ.html
> 
> 
>> 
>> What is GEcreateSnapshot?  I tried ?, emacs apropos, and man with no success.
>> 
>> Where is the display list kept on the mac?  ls(all=TRUE) isn't showing it.
>> On windows, it is 
>> > ls(all=TRUE)
>> [1] ".SavedPlots"
>> 
>> When I do find the display list on the mac, how can I index into it farther 
>> back than 16?
>> 
>> What I would like are two features that I have become accustomed to.
>> From either R on windows or S-Plus, click graphs forward or backward in 
>> sequence as far back as memory supports.
>> From S-Plus on windows, click on a tab to get to a specific graph, or click 
>> on a tab and delete
>> a specific graph.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Simon Urbanek <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 9:42 AM, David Winsemius wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > On Jul 4, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
>> >
>> >> David,
>> >>
>> >> thank you.  it works.
>> >>
>> >> Where is it documented?
>> >
>> > The first place I find written documentation of the cmd-arrow
>> > functions  is in the R MacOSX FAQ:
>> > 12.8 Why are Quartz plots much bigger than they used to be?
>> > (Second paragraph)
>> >
>> > (I may have read about the stack depth in one of the postings from
>> > Simon in this venue. The figure of ten is a rough guess. The true
>> > value is somewhere  in the range of 8 to 15.)
>> >
>> >> I want to set the depth to something much larger than 10.
>> >
>> > I have not found a place for users to change this. May be that a
>> > compile time change is needed. (Simon will hopefully correct me if
>> > this is wrong.)
>> >
>> 
>> R-devel/src/library/grDevices/src/qdCocoa.m@37:
>> 
>> #define histsize 16
>> 
>> so, yes, it is hard-coded in R.
>> 
>> It is not part of the R.app GUI but actually of the Quartz device in R 
>> itself so it is not configurable.
>> 
>> It simply saves display lists and replays them as you go back - you can do 
>> that with any device that has display lists enabled (see dev.control). I'm 
>> not sure what Rich is up to but you can always save and restore plots with 
>> GEcreateSnapshot and GEplayDisplayList regardless of the device and the 
>> display list is just an R object. Keeping more than 16 plots seems a little 
>> tedious to go through ...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > I tried searching MarkMail's archive with a couple of strategies, ...
>> > the last unsuccessful one was:
>> >
>> > http://markmail.org/search/?q=simon+urbanek+list%3Aorg.r-project.r-sig-mac+graphics+increase#query
>> > :simon%20urbanek%20list%3Aorg.r-project.r-sig-mac%20graphics%20increase
>> > +page:2+mid:ykmzj6mwesj3wywu+state:results
>> >
>> > (I don't know if that will be paste-worthy or click-worthy.)
>> >
>> >
>> >> I don't see anything about the stack on the ?quartz page
>> >> and there appears not to be any control option on the quartz menu
>> >> item on the device
>> >> itself.
>> >
>> > If the Quartz window is the focus, the Quartz menu options will become
>> > active  and even if not the focus the menu will also tell you the
>> > keyboard equivalents (standard Mac behavior). I think that is where I
>> > learned it.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Rich
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:35 PM, David Winsemius <[email protected]
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 4, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The windows feature I miss most on the Mac is a graphics device that
>> >> remembers the previous graphs,
>> >> specifically
>> >> windows.options(record=TRUE)  ## R for Windows
>> >>
>> >> Is there a similar feature available on the macintosh?
>> >>
>> >> There is a graphics stack, whose default depth is 10, and you can
>> >> scroll backward with cmd-<left-arrow>  ... at least in the R64.app
>> >> and r.app GUI's.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David Winsemius, MD
>> >> West Hartford, CT
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > David Winsemius, MD
>> > West Hartford, CT
>> >
>> >
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> 
> David Winsemius, MD
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