Jens Axel Søgaard wrote on 5/22/19 4:12 AM:
I am beginning to think the rumour of Google Groups closing is a misunderstanding. Probably due to the closing of Google+ which also had something named Groups.
I don't want to drag racket-dev into point-by-point pros&cons (we knew from the start that Google Groups was a pragmatic compromise), and people are visibly already sick of this topic, but I should clarify this:
I haven't heard of anyone who admins a Google Group confusing that with Google+.
The concerns I've heard about Google Groups come from people who admin them, and I've seen some of those same problems myself as an admin, even with only 2 small lists. That's why I said "last straw" when I found posts were not showing up in Google searches.
Now that the posts are showing up in Google again, there's less urgency to move, but I think Racket will be better off if one of the universities steps up with a properly-maintained mailing list server, or, secondarily, some heroically altruistic volunteer can set up and operate it.
(This used to be a solved problem. Universities or departments would run an email list server, including for research projects in which the university had an interest, it would work, and department/group staff or grad students with RAs/TAs would spend small amounts of time on the side, taking up whatever gaps in that university-wide service, like moderating, or working on a research group Web site. Or it can be done with community volunteers, but some of the universities are getting valuable research cred related to this. Not all research exposure comes from conference attendees and whomever reads the occasional journal article on old stuff. And operating an email list server for the university should be negligible in their campus-wide IT budgets. One of the universities has done an amazing job with very aggressively and famously advancing its rankings, in addition to having top research, and appears flush with funds, so it seems ridiculous that any academically-prominent research project there can't just get a working email list server the university maintains for any fac/staff/students that needs it. If additional argument is needed, you can just point to the current scandals as the systemic abuses of some prominent social media companies are starting to come into public view. The university used to be a venue and guardian of discourse and the marketplace of ideas, and that's still a role for it, even as they rush to one-up each other on posh new gym and housing facilities to attract the most affluent students.)
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