> On May 28, 2017, at 6:24 PM, ylluminate <yllumin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Matthias, thanks for that. So essentially the scripted components are
> available in different focuses (e.g., HoC, Algebra, Reactive, Data Science, &
> Physics) here:
> http://www.wescheme.org/openEditor
>
> Correct? Are these to be used in a stepwise fashion moving from HoC to
> Algebra to Reactive, etc?
Yes.
>
> It seems that after these are completed, you then recommend the "After
> Bootstrap" links.
Yes!
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 4:28:33 PM UTC-4, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>> On May 28, 2017, at 1:23 AM, ylluminate <yllum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have a older teen who's been programming for the last several years and is
>> remarkably talented. His younger brother is now wanting to get going (10).
>>
>> My older son started with JS, learned how to hate it, and moved on to Ruby
>> (specifically Opal has a special place in his heart as far as isomorphic dev
>> goes). From there he's worked with a number of other languages, including
>> Racket. The nice thing about JS at the time was that he used Codecademy
>> with their rapid turn around repl + visual results. After a good bit of
>> discussion, it really seems that Racket mostly matches this need and
>> provides an even superior foothold for one just starting.
>>
>> Initially I really thought that "Realm of Racket" would be an ideal
>> springboard for him, but some reviews have made me think otherwise.
>>
>> Does anyone have a solid recommendation for starting kids off with Racket in
>> 2017? Are there any kid-centric courses?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You should check into bootstrap-world.org. It is the middle school part of
>> our outreach project. It comes with a scripted curriculum that introduces
>> video programming via very simple Racket. See WeScheme.org for the IDE. The
>> curriculum is a simplification and adaptation of How to Design Programs
>> (HtDP) for kids in the 10-14 age range. You can also use DrRacket and its
>> Beginning Student Language (BSL) if you wish to work off-line. If a package
>> fails to meet the advertised standard, holler and we will fix it. (We
>> occasionally diverge here.) [FWIW, this form of coding is isomorphic to the
>> math kids learn at the same grade level. We dont tell them in case they
>> don’t like math. So even if your teenager does not go on to become the next
>> Facebook creator with his Racket skills, he will have learned and
>> re-inforced a much more valuable skill.]
>>
>>
>> The second step could be Bootstrap II (but that’s in a different language)
>> or HtDP or both, sequenced in this order.
>>
>>
>> Realm of Racket is NOT intended for plain beginners. It says so in the
>> Preface. We really tried hard to clarify that we assume some basic
>> programming knowledge, such as HtDP or something else (not necessarily
>> Racket). I don’t know which reviews you found but I sure hope they
>> acknowledge that we already say it’s not intended for 10-year olds.
>>
>>
>> — Matthias
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