Thanks for this Neil.

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:28 AM Neil Van Dyke <n...@neilvandyke.org> wrote:

> I know this particular one is a minor thing, but they add up, over time...
>
> Please consider approaches that are open, rather than owned, and try not
> to increase lock-in by big-business plays.
>
> It's pragmatic to keep using GitHub in limited ways right now, *but*
> part of that is being judicious about creeping lock-in, which is a
> pattern we've seen for decades (and the current owner of GitHub has been
> one of the most epic abusers).
>
> To use GitHub as an example, though this is not specific to them: They
> are not your friend.  They used to seem like your friend, but that
> friendship was worth fewer than 7.5 billion dollars.
>
> When you effectively partner with such a company, approach it as an
> temporary alliance, limit their power over you, and keep trying to
> increase your options/freedom.
>
> Also, consider what you're promoting, especially to impressionable
> students around Racket.  Every use is effectively you endorsing
> something questionable.
>

This is an appropriate reminder that there is a range of different costs to
these 'free' services. I understand SE in higher education does try to
include 'software and society', but I suspect this is something that is
missed - and many developers don't enter the profession via a SE higher-ed
pathways.

I hope my response was appropriate. I do appreciate your advice and
guidance. Keep it coming.

Maybe it's time to poke the Conservancy.  It should be on their radar by
> now, and some of the solution applies to all projects.
>

While SFC provides many great services listed at
https://sfconservancy.org/projects/services/, technical solutions are not
in their remit, so it falls to us.

With that in mind, I tried specifying a version 'alternate' in
https://pkgd.racket-lang.org a way of mitigating this risk, but sadly it
failed with an error. (logged as
https://github.com/racket/pkg-index/issues/21 )

Kind regards,

Stephen

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