Mark, Aitor,

Thanks for your mails.  Actually, my needs are simpler - that's where 
the idea started out.  In my case,

Aitor - I agree that it seems a bit of a waste to duplicate the tags, 
but I'm not sure if there will be different tags for different 
languages.  Also, there may be multiple parts to a page each of which 
may need to be in a different language.  In my case, there are 
differences that come in due to:
  [1] Each language is probably maintained by a different person.
  [2] Each language may have a separate set of articles - there is no 
guarantee that every article will exist in English.  It's likely that 
there are some articles that are present in only one of the languages.

A lot may depend on how similar/ different the multiple language sites are.

I think there are still a few unresolved issues :-S

Cheers,
Mohit.
9/11/2007 | 1:59 AM.

Aitor Garay-Romero wrote:
>
>     The scheme described by Mohit below addresses the selection of the 
> language,  but we still need to store the translations.
>
>      Given the simple tree structure of Radiant pages, i don't think 
> that duplicating the pages in different languages is a good idea.  A 
> solution could be:
>
>      - define different page parts for the language versions.  For 
> example, have the parts "body_en", "body_fr" and "body_es".  Or just 
> "body", "fr", "es".  They could be "special parts" or not.
>
>      - let Radiant choose the correct part, using the method described 
> by Mohit or by other means
>
>      - i don't like the idea of duplicating the tags (structure) of 
> the page, so there must be a way to define a page template and then 
> connect that page to the translations in the different parts.  One 
> solution could be to define <trans(late)> tags that are used like:
>
>      <r:trans id="select_child">Please select a child:</r:trans>
>      <r:children:each> ... </r:children:each>
>
>     In this case the page is defined in english, and the translations 
> are stored in the page parts and indexed by the translation id.  Maybe 
> replace the <trans> tags by some other syntax sugar like the "_", "$" 
> or other symbol.
>
>      - the translation of dates etc. must be also handled.  For this 
> and more things it would be wise to take a look to how things arte 
> done in other Rails i18 plugins like Globalize.
>
>     /AITOR
>
>
> On 9/10/07, *Mohit Sindhwani* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi Sean,
>
>     This is what I have in mind for it right now.  I didn't want to
>     propose
>     anything in the first email so that I wouldn't bias people :)
>
>     Given the Rails philosophy, this 'workaround' assumes a few things -
>     let's call it convention over configuration :D
>
>     1. I was thinking that it should be possible to maintain a list of
>     languages that are currently available in the system.  I'm not
>     sure what
>     would be the best place for this (either the DB or YAML or config or
>     something) but let's not get bogged down by that yet.  So, we have a
>     file that has a list of languages that are supported = [TH, EN,
>     CN, MY,
>     ES, JP, KR, ..]
>
>     2. Now, we ensure that every article that is created in a different
>     language has the same name in every language but it is in a different
>     'subsite' so to speak.  So, you have
>        /hello_world  <- main english site (primary language)
>        /es/hello_world <- Espanol
>        /my/hello_world <- malay
>       /../hello_world
>
>     3. When we render a page, first we extract the base name of the page
>     [hello_world] above.  Then, when we render the 'language bar' for a
>     page, we go through the list of supported languages and try to
>     look for
>       /th/hello_world, /cn/hello_world, /my/hello_world, ... and
>     /hello_world (for the main site)
>     If the find URL succeeds, we render a link for it.
>
>     4. Additionally, we could have a piece of JavaScript that checks
>     to see
>     if the name that you are adding exists in another language when
>     you add
>     it in - and alerts you if it does.  That gives you a visual check if 2
>     articles have similar names or if you expected that this is a
>     translation for another article and you got the name slightly wrong.
>
>     What do you think?  I have no idea what kind of performance constraint
>     this might impose.
>
>     That's my first thought.  Now I have to think of going about
>     implementing it if it seems like the way forward.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Mohit.
>     9/10/2007 | 10:08 PM.
>
>
>
>     Sean Cribbs wrote:
>     > Interesting problem.  No, the language-redirect behavior/extension
>     > reads the preferred language sent by your browser and sends the
>     user
>     > to a whole different subsite based on that language.  Multiple
>     > language support in Radiant is still very nascent; we'd love to hear
>     > some ideas or see some unique solutions.
>     >
>     > Sean
>     >
>     > On 9/10/07, Mohit Sindhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Hi Everyone,
>     >>
>     >> In my site [currently being tried out at http://tec.onghu.com ]
>     that is
>     >> powered by Radiant, I have a number of articles and news
>     pieces.  For
>     >> some of them, translations in other languages exist.  In those
>     cases,
>     >> when I display the article, I would like to show a link to the
>     same
>     >> article in a different language.
>     >>
>     >> So, if I have the article in English, Thai and Chinese, and you are
>     >> viewing the English version, I'd like to also show in the
>     "Language
>     >> Bar", the option to "View this article in [Thai] | [Chinese]".  If
>     >> you're viewing it in Thai, it would show "View this article in
>     [English]
>     >> | [Chinese]"
>     >>
>     >> Do you have any recommendation on how I should go about
>     this?  I don't
>     >> think this exactly maps to the 'Language Redirect Behaviour'
>     but if it
>     >> does, I'd like to be corrected.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks,
>     >> Mohit.
>     >>
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