Maarten, Yes, I understand the documentation problem. That is one reason why we have been trying to promote the wiki; documentation is time-consuming to write.
Sean Maarten Oelering wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Thanks for your extensive reply. I am happy to hear that Radiant is > very active. > > However others might get the same impression as me, which probably > would not be the case if radiantcms.org is updated more frequently. > But, as you say, the quality of the code is what counts, and not the > packaging. > > The fact that Radiant, like any other CMS, may not do eveything out- > of-the-box is not a problem. That's one of the main reasons why I > prefer a Rails based CMS, since it makes developing extensions a lot > easier. > > What made me enthousiastic in the review I mentioned is that Radiant > is part of list of well-known CMS's and considered as an interesting > new contenter which looks very promising. As a ruby developer, the > only lacking feature I have a problem with is the part about the > documentation. I will check out the Styled Blog template as you > suggested. This might help me creating the layouts and structure of > the site. However my less technical colleagues must also be able to > edit content or add pages to the site. If the rather conceptual > documentation is extended with more concrete examples, it might help > a lot. > > Cheers, > > Maarten > > On 20-feb-2008, at 15:46, Sean Cribbs wrote: > > >> Maarten, >> >> Let me assuage some of your fears. Radiant is VERY active, people are >> using the CMS all the time to build websites, and I receive at >> least 15 >> messages a day on the mailing lists. Your perception of inactivity in >> the project may be because we release fairly infrequently, for an >> open-source project. I would say that's a combination of the limited >> time our core developers can devote, the overall quality of the code >> (fewer bug fixes) and our commitment to that quality (we try not to >> release broken code). >> >> I would not fear using it for "serious business websites". If you >> want >> evidence of its usage in a "serious business website", look no further >> than redken.com (USA site) and redkensalon.com. Granted, we made >> heavy >> customizations to Radiant for that site, but the team I worked with >> assured me that all of the sites they have built, most of them with a >> PHP-based CMS, have required an equivalent customization effort. >> >> Regarding templates (layouts, actually), Radiant gets out of your >> way in >> that regard. Design whatever template you want, Radiant can serve it. >> If you want to know how to create a layout, it's best to bootstrap >> Radiant with the "Styled Blog" template and read its layout(s). They >> are actually a lot simpler than you might expect. >> >> Let me be clear. Radiant won't do everything for you, but most of your >> needs will be satisfied by the base installation: designing, creating >> and publishing pages. For other things, you will need to look into >> extensions. >> >> Sean >> >> P.S. Those lacking features made you MORE enthusiastic? Did I >> understand >> you correctly? >> >> Maarten Oelering wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm a ruby developer and very enthousiastic about Radiant. The review >>> on http://www.a3webtech.com/index.php/cms-3.html mentioning the less >>> mature state of the project and the lack of an installer even made me >>> more enthousiastic. >>> >>> However I am still hesitant using it for a serious business websites. >>> I miss some critical documentation on creating templates for a decent >>> website, i.e. how to use the system in the role of webmaster. Reading >>> the documentation on radiantcms.org didn't help me much. Fortunately >>> the article in artofmission.com cleared up some things for me. >>> >>> Overall I get the impression that project is not very active, judging >>> on releases, the blog and the mailing groups. However I can't see >>> what's going on behind the scenes. Is Radiant still alive and >>> kicking? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Maarten Oelering >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Radiant mailing list >>> Post: [email protected] >>> Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ >>> Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Radiant mailing list >> Post: [email protected] >> Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ >> Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant >> > > _______________________________________________ > Radiant mailing list > Post: [email protected] > Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ > Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant > > _______________________________________________ Radiant mailing list Post: [email protected] Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
