Jim,

Thanks very much for your thoughtful and detailed response. I truly
appreciate it. I'm sorry to need a level of assistance that surely above
average (at least for this list!), but that's just how it is. On the
other hand, I WILL make every attempt to get maximum benefit out of all
help offered to me, I assure you!

Jim Gay wrote:
Tom,

Installing the rails gem will have no effect on radiant.
Super. Cross off one issue.

I edited a page on the wiki to include this information: http://wiki.radiantcms.org/FAQ
Fantastic. Much appreciated.

I'm sorry to hear that you've had trouble. I don't know that I've read any of your previous emails to this list, but I've personally been trying to be as helpful as I can (as my schedule allows). With that aside, is there a reason you want to use Rails 2.1?
Thanks for your commitment! Re: Rails 2.1 - as previously stated, I
installed it because I learned that Radiant needed rails, and I didn't
see the Rails gem in a fresh listing of my installed gems. This happened
because I had no awareness of the internal version of Rails of which
Sean made mention.

What problem are you having with bootstrapping the database? Can you reply back with whatever relevant error message in a pastie? (http://pastie.org/) I'm sorry if I've missed this in a previous email.
I'll work this up and post it in a short while. Great suggestion.

Mohit has been working hard to whip up support from the community to write more documentation, so hopefully your questions can be answered there. It would be great if you would document your solution once it's found.
Well, I've wanted to do this, if only to make a small contribution.
So...I'll commit to it - IF I can get this ghost launched!

I understand your frustration. Keep in mind that everyone here is a volunteer and sometimes some emails just get lost because people in the community don't have much time to reply, or don't know the answer.
I'm well aware of this - it's one reason for my gratitude for any help
offered.

Will be back to you shortly. Thanks again.

t.

Hopefully I (or someone) can help.

-Jim

On Aug 13, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote:

Sean,

Thanks for the update. Now things make more sense. I do wonder it if
might be wise to state somewhere obvious on the website that "Radiant
INCLUDES its own version of Rails, so you don't need to worry about
which version you have installed". Also: I assume that this means that
having the 2.1 Rails gem installed won't hurt anything. Correct? (again
- might not this be made clear at the website?).

Thanks for the help. I remain hopeful about getting things up and running.

t.

Sean Cribbs wrote:
Tom,

Sorry you were having problems, and that my message was unclear. Radiant INCLUDES its own version of Rails, so you don't need to worry about which version you have installed. However, as I discovered later in a continued private conversation with Alexey, he was running Ruby 1.8.7. Radiant is known not to work on 1.8.7. However, when we successfully upgrade to Rails 2.1.x, we should be compatible with Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.

Some testing from the community would be appreciated once we near that milestone.

Sean
Oh OUCH! Please educate me, 'cause I'm really confused at this point.

I'm the guy who's been trying for a couple of weeks (or more) simply to get a Radiant instance up and running. I've posted multiple times to the list about my travails. I'm stalled at the "Bootstrap the Database" section on the Installation page [http://wiki.radiantcms.org/Installation] of the Radiant website. Mohit's recently given me a new idea to follow up on, and I hope to do that very soon.

Meanwhile, THIS post informs me that the current Radiant doesn't run on Rails 2.1.

My problem: I installed the radiant gem, following the instructions at the website. I assumed that dependencies would automatically be resolved. They weren't. Rails was NOT installed. Why not? So I installed rails, and of course it was the rails gem and of course it was 2.1. Now I learn that this won't work. I have to wonder about the degree to which this might be the cause of my problems (well documented in previous posts).

I'm not a CS professional. I cannot untangle all this in advance. I'm a bit surprised that anyone could, but what do I know?

To me, this looks like a poorly set up installation process, compounded by the fact that there seems to be NO mention on the Radiant website of the fact that rails 2.1 is the wrong version to install.

Am I out of line complaining about this? Please tell me, if so. I have spent hours trying simply to getting a working instance of Radiant set up on my desktop. This is my second major effort at this. I remain, as of this writing, defeated. I would have to say that it may not be entirely due to my ignorance.

Is this something that can/should be fixed.?

Oh...and by the way, what version of Rails is Radiant happy with? COULD SOMEONE PLEASE PUT THIS IN PLAIN SIGHT ON THE WEBSITE??? (after posting it here, so I can be properly advised, finally)

t.



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