OOPS. Not ratified until 1789  --I knew that ( not ).
EMBARRASSMENT ^2 for a professional historian,  think I will go to 
a local priest and get his advice on suitable penance.
 
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New Amendments ?
 
Don't get me started. Well, OK, get me started, but you will regret  it.
 
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( 1 ) Slight change in the electoral college, add 1 electoral vote for each 
 state
( 50 for now ) to any candidate for prez who wins the USA popular  vote.
Keep everything else about it the same, but we don't need any more
minority presidents. "Plus 50" should be sufficient. Otherwise I like
the Electoral College for the reasons envisioned at the time.
Puleeze, don't bring up Al Gore, that is NOT the point
and not something I feel like debating. Anyway, it could have
been W in 2004 if Kerry had taken Ohio, same thing.
 
Provision for recounts only in STATES  ( no national recount )
where the margin of victory is less than 1/4th  of 1 %.
 
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( 2 )  Direct non-partisan national election of Supreme Court Justices 
to serve 8 year terms with only one re-election possible. 
No more judicial gerontocracy.
 
Staggered elections similar to those for the Senate. 
 
Part of the Amendment would make it a requirement to interpret
the Constitution strictly, make Originalist interpretation  mandatory.
No more goddamned judicial activism.
 
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( 3 )   Criminalization of homosexuality. 
 
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( 4 )   Criminalization of Islam
 
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( 5 )    Criminalization of coal strip mining in mountain  country, but
          OK in flat-land  areas if no problems with water tables, etc
 
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( 6 )    Change in the Amendment process. An amendment is  ratified
           when it  is approved by states representing 3/4ths of the US 
population
           NOT by 3/4ths  of states.
 
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( 7 )    Anti-Gerrymandering Amendment. Within some  small tolerance 
allowance,
           all  congressional districts shall be as geographically compact 
as possible,
           with major  consideration for local traditions, with the 
objective of
           making as many  districts in all states as politically 
competitive as possible.
           No more ( or  only very few ) "safe" districts which are not 
competitive.
           And no more  racial or ethnic "quotas" in who gets elected. 
           Conversely, no  districts should be drawn up to disenfranchise
           racial or  ethnic minorities.
 
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( 8 )    Sociobiology Amendment, that is, an amendment which  says that some
           occupations  are, for sociobiological reasons, suited better for 
one gender
           than for the  other. This should not be interpreted to mean a 
return
           to the  situation a century ago, but women in combat would be 
outlawed,
           maternity  leaves for women might be a good idea but would be an 
absurdity
           for men, and  on an  on, putting an end to feminist nonsense 
once and for all.
 
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( 9 )    Third party representation in Congress. 20 at-large  seats would 
be created
           over and  above the current mix, and reserved  for third parties 
and 
           apportioned  according to national popular vote totals.
 
           For  example, if Libertarians got a lot of  " other "  votes 
they might end  up
           with 5 seats,  Greens with 4, Socialists with 3, and so forth. 
Time to end
           shutting out  third parties  --who have always contributed to 
national debate
           in new and  sometimes important ways.
 
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( 10 )   Statehood policy for foreign nations. Make it a  permanent part of 
US policy,
           intrinsic to  our system, to seek to expand the republic,  
generation after  generation
           and  eventually bring most of the world into the American 
system. Usual  process.
 
           Period of  territorial status, length of time depending on how 
long it takes people
           to learn  English ( hereby the official language ), integrate 
American institutions
           in an area,  become familiar with US law, etc etc. A formula 
would be agreed to
           such that,  say, Mexico , if its people wanted to join, would be 
divided
           into  maybe 20 territories , which would then become states as 
they become
           ready.  Obviously this would allow US citizens, businesses, etc, 
to do
           whatever is in  their perceived best interests, within US law, 
in Mexico.
           But the idea  is much grander and an objective would be to 
maintain
           some semblance  to the current US demographic mix. Russia might 
sign up,
           for instance,  Taiwan, Cyprus, Panama, and I'd go for Haiti, 
too, to finally
           make that  nation into something fit for human habitation, an 
example
           of what the US  can do for even the worst basket-case nation.
           Show the world  that we are superior in just about everything.
           Call it  the "US Exceptionalism Amendment."
 
 
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Finally, maybe not an amendment, but whatever it takes to retry Roe v  Wade
and any other cases which are brought before the High Court on false  
pretenses.
As everyone should know, Roe v Wade was decided at least partly
on perjured testimony. This should NOT be allowed to stand.
 
 
 
 
 
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Well, lots more where these came from, but for starters.
 
Billy
 
 
 
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So, what are your suggestions ?  Am eager to find out  .
Who knows ?  Maybe I will steal a few of your  ideas.
 
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In a message dated 10/10/2010 8:33:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Of course it's an assumption. '1787' in abstract is  real close to the time 
of drafting and The Federalist Papers and all of that.  I know that it was 
not ratified until 1789. 

50 new amendments??? Oh,  so you want it to look more like the Texas 
Constitution with 467 or so?? Not  sure that's an improvement there, buddy. :-) 
 

I think that most of the commerce clause "case law"  needs to be chunked. 
If it isn't, that clause may well be the clause that  destroys the rest of 
the document. 

You'll have to tell me more about  your 50 amendments. There's a few I 
would like eliminated, I know that.  

David 

  
 
To  compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which 
he  disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.--Thomas  Jefferson 



On 10/10/2010 10:10 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  wrote:  
 
Assumption ? ? ?
 
We need to have that  document from back then, I think it was called "The 
Constitution" or  something, actually taken seriously. Instead of serious 
attempts being made  to go around it.

Not remotely my intention although maybe I wasn't sufficiently  clear. I 
was thinking
--metaphorically--  of everything SINCE  the Constitution.
 
Actually, to be technical, more like everything from JQ Adams and  Andrew 
Jackson onward.
 
I am a Strict Constructionist / Originalist even if I think we need  about 
50 new Amendments,
 
BR
 
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In a message dated 10/10/2010 7:08:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

I'd have been  more impressed with Thomas Jefferson rather than Teddy, but 
that's my  choice. :-) 

We need  to have that document from back then, I think it was called "The  
Constitution" or something, actually taken seriously. Instead of serious  
attempts being made to go around it.

Take the "Bush tax cuts." On  01/01/2011, all tax rates in all brackets go 
up. It doesn't stop at the  dear Presidents line in the sand of $250,000. If 
you paid ANY taxes, they  will go up. I haven't reached that level, and yet 
the percentage in my  bracket is going UP. Do tell me how an increase is a 
decrease. So all of  the hot air about this not impacting the middle class 
is just that: hot  air. To top that off, the Marriage Penalty is back, and 
allowances for  offspring are up for reduction as well. 

My former college roommate  has a small business. Small businesses 
basically file a return not that  much different from that of an individual. 
Different deductions and no  individual exemptions are about the only 
difference. 
With those  differences, it does not take long-if you made any money at 
all-to get up  there in the income column. Just as for individual the rates on 
the  brackets go up, the same applies here. So he's probably not going to hire 
 another clerk (even if he needs one due to the increased paperwork in the  
health insurance sales business), because the new taxes will come close to  
the salary a clerk would get paid, and the IRS demands its pound of flesh  
first. So the clerk will not be hired, the IRS has their salary in their  
vaults.

And pardon me if all I hear lately from the administration  is condemnation 
of the court ruling allowing corporate contributions and  condemnation of 
corporations while they are silent on the unions, due to  the massive 
advantages Democrats have with union thugs. According the the  Democratic 
administration, union thugs are all sweetness and light (even  the ones that 
beat 
folks up for not voting "correctly") but the only font  of wickedness is the 
Republican party and Corporations. Or have you  ignored Obama lately? God 
knows I've tried...

Does the above  paragraph strike you as ludicrous as well?  

One of your other charts confirmed my  suspicions, Lehman Brothers gave 
more the the Republicans than the  Democrats, so it was not rescued. Goldman 
Sachs gave more money to the  Democrats, and it was rescued. Nice way to 
"legally" reduce contributions  to Republicans. So what if it cost the economy 
several thousand jobs.  

Sincerely yours, 

P. J. O'Rourke

  
 
To  compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which 
he  disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.--Thomas  Jefferson 



On 10/10/2010 7:49 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   wrote:  
 
David :
Far be it from me to put all the "evil ones" in the  Republican Party. Just 
saying that
wealth and the GOP go together like hand-in-glove. Doesn't mean  that , say,
there isn't Big Money that flows to the Left from Hollywood or  elsewhere.
Clearly there is. But there is a reason why, most of the time, the  
Republicans
are the ones in Congress who stick up for the wealthy.
 
Just as there is a reason why some Democrats have jumped ship  and
want the Bush tax cuts extended to everyone, including the $  250,000 crowd.
The mutineers are in hock to Big Wealth.
 
My argument is that wealth simply is no guarantee of  virtue ,  investing 
in America, 
not transferring most of one's money to the Caymans or Switzerland,  not 
shipping 
a large # of jobs overseas, etc,.
 
Yet to hear it from the GOP leadership,  the saints among us  are all 
millionaires
and the only font of wickedness in the USA consists of the  unions.
 
Such a view strike me as ludicrous ( insane, absurd on the face of  it, 
demented, etc ).
 
I have plenty of things to say about the social policies of the  Democrats, 
about
their fiscal policies, etc, which have been made abundantly clear  in the 
past months
and years.
 
IMHO. we are dealing with two  Evil and Stupid Parties  even if one is 
more Evil and the other is more Stupid.
 
Sincerely
 
Theodore  Roosevelt
 
PS
We need to go back to 1787 and start over. 
 
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In a message dated 10/10/2010 4:46:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes:

Although, oddly enough, I saw  a couple of polls this week where Bush 
out-polled Obama. A couple were  within the margin of error, too. Simply 
amazing. 

I wouldn't  have given 45 % either on virtue, but I also wouldn't have put 
ALL of  the evil ones all in the Republican Party. I might put them all in 
the  Demonrat Party. :-)  Doing a hell of a job there, Barry. Warren Buffet 
is one  of Obama's advisers. I would speculate that Gates and Jobs are  also 
in the Democratic camp, whatever somewhat strange bedfellows that  might be. 

To put it kindly, the only Republican megabuck  people I could have named 
(before Obama started going after the Koch  family this week), would have 
been the Wal-Mart Waltons. Perhaps  Rupert Murdock, but then he sort of spreads 
his contributions to both  parties. Yet, on the other hand, I can name 
Buffet, Soros, Immelt,  Zucker, Gates, and Jobs without breaking a sweat. Not 
to 
mention  Kennedy and Kerry (Heinz), and Kohl. 

Most of the rich oil  barons are long gone, and their money divided amongst 
the heirs, at  least in the US.

Here's a story about some Rich Democrats  trying to turn Texas Blue 

_http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-shadow-party-how-a-washington-based-libera
l-activist-is-trying-to-turn-texas-blue-whether-texans-want-it-or-not/_ 
(http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-shadow-party-how-a-washington-based-liberal-ac
tivist-is-trying-to-turn-texas-blue-whether-texans-want-it-or-not/) 

Do  note "whether Texans want it or not." Of course, some of them won  
their money in lawsuits or got it from lucrative government contracts  (like 
Democratic Gubernatorial Candidate Bill White). But it's always  the 
Republicans that are corrupt. (Nevermind Waxine Waters, Charlie  Rangel, the 
late John 
Murtha, Eddie Bernice Johnson, Blago.) Nancy  Pelosi said that she would 
"drain the swamp." All she did was restock  it with Democratic crooks.  

David  

  
 








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