Ernie : Well, Jesus didn't need to be born, either, but he was, and while among us obeyed Newton's laws and those of everyone else in physics. Or so I believe. No, I don't buy the walking on water story, as worthwhile as it may be as edifying myth with a moral. Seems to me that some of the Gospel resurrection accounts are very bodily, not only the Thomas episode. So, maybe he didn't "need to" obey laws of physics but he did so voluntarily and, accordingly, was "in the flesh" for those times --even if other times ( as Paul said about his experience on the road to Damascus ) he appeared as Spirit. Speaking of Thomas, since Jesus still had his wounds, and presumably still had blood in them, if doubtless coagulated as part of the healing process, it strikes me as kind of an evasion to say his body was "glorified," which might best be said of him post-Ascension. At least this is my understanding About which you may have a different opinion, but for me it leaves the days and weeks immediately post-crucifixion inexplicable. Or a "mystery." Yet needing explanation which, for now, simply escapes me. Some ideas, for sure, not exactly the first time I have thought about this, but to say the least, there are more questions than answers. Billy ================================================== message dated 4/18/2011 9:57:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The orthodox view is that Jesus had a "glorified body" post-ressurrection, similar to what we may have. His actual flesh had been transformed into something higher that didn't need to obey the laws of physics.
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2011, at 21:53, [email protected] wrote: > How do you make the best sense of the immaterial "visions" of Jesus, > post-crucifixion, of which there are more than a few after all, given the pretty much > "standard" Sunday sermon view that in all cases we are talking about Jesus in > the flesh ? -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
