Not sure exactly how much if the following article applies to our  group
but some of it does. The Big problem is inability to agree about a  plan
of action / platform for an RC movement. The article mentions this
explicitly in the context of Friedman's would-be RC movement
vs. all the other ideas "out there" which are similar.
 
How do we, as Radical Centrists, reach programmatic decisions ?
So far the answer is, "we don't."  Yet not a bad idea to give this 
some attention. How do we arrive at conclusions for what should
be featured in a Radical Centrist platform ? Up and down yea and nea vote  ?
Discussion until we arrive at a consensus ?  Something else ?  If  so, what 
?
 
Once we have a platform we have a "product" that can be marketed.
 
For your consideration
Billy
 
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from the site :   
_Campaign Desk_ (http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/)  — July 25, 2011 03:37 
PM
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Tom Friedman’s ‘Radical’ Wrongness
Critics debunk—again—the NYT columnist’s  ‘radical center’ dream 
By _Greg Marx_ (http://www.cjr.org/author/greg-marx-1/)  
    *   
 
Over the weekend, The New York Times op-ed page published one of Tom  
Friedman’s _periodic columns_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24friedman.html?_r=3&pagewanted=print)
  about the need for  a uprising of the 
“radical center.” It was, unsurprisingly, terrible. Though the  details of 
these columns change with each iteration—this one relied heavily on a  new 
initiative called Americans Elect, which brings together two of Friedman’s  
favorite things, wealthy people and the Internet—the basic wrongheadedness 
does  not. 
Friedman’s idea seems to be that if only we can find some reform that will  
allow us to “_break the oligopoly of the two-party  system_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/opinion/24friedman.html?pagewanted=print) ,” 
it might, 
someday, be possible for someone who holds 90  percent of Barack Obama’s 
stated policy positions—plus support for a carbon  tax—to assume a position of 
power. Then, for reasons that aren’t entirely  clear—maybe because some 
fantasy vice president (Michael Bloomberg?) applies  some of his “pragmatic 
independent” pixie dust?—political dysfunction  disappears, and a magical new 
era of _“superconsensus” to solve our “superhard”  problems_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/03/opinion/03friedman.html?pagewanted=print)  
is ushered 
in. Startlingly, this consensus seems to closely  reflect many of Friedman’s 
personal policy preferences. 
Friedman has been engaged in third-party wishcasting for at least five 
years  now; Brendan Nyhan’s _excellent, running blog post_ 
(http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/third-party-predictions.html)  on  
third-party media hype 
records that back in the 2006 election cycle, Friedman  longed for a “Geo-Green 
Party.” His “radical center” phase, though, seems to be  inspired by the 
Tea Party era. Friedman has devoted columns to this mythical  middle at least 
three times since spring 2010. They’re as predictable as the  tides, or a 
hackneyed lede about a conversation with a taxi driver or tech  entrepreneur. 
Just as predictable is the subsequent savaging by writers who, having some  
insight into the workings of American politics, can explain not just why  
Friedman’s vision is impractical but also how it misunderstands the virtues 
of  American democracy. If the columns have little intrinsic value, they 
serve as  fodder for an entertaining, informative Internet competition, a sort 
of piñata  that smart writers across the political spectrum bat about to 
demonstrate their  blogging skills. 
What follows is a selective anthology of Friedman’s “radical center” 
columns,  each followed by excerpts of notable debunkings. Their inclusion is 
based on  sharpness of snark, quality of analytical insight, or, ideally, both. 
 Admittedly, nothing here approaches the panache of Matt Taibbi’s _epic 
evisceration of Friedman’s writing style_ 
(http://www.nypress.com/article-11419-flathead.html) . But they  are worthy 
counts in a pretty strong indictment 
of one of our best-known  political columnists. 
* “_A Tea Party Without Nuts_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/opinion/24friedman.html?pagewanted=print) ,” 
March  24, 2010. 
After outlining a platform that could have come straight from a White House 
 white paper—expanded access to health insurance coupled with market 
reforms to  control costs, greater investment in education along with higher 
standards,  etc.—Friedman suggests, implausibly, that non-partisan 
redistricting 
and an  alternative voting system akin to _instant-runoff voting_ 
(http://www.instantrunoff.com/the-basics/)  will empower the radical  center. 
Reaction to this piece was relatively muted, though at Reason, _Matt Welch 
flagged_ (http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/24/thomas-friedmans-tee-tea-party)  
the, um,  non-radicalness of Friedman’s agenda: 
The columnist’s definitions of “radical centrism,” as made  tangible 
through our political system, will be what we end up living with over  the next 
several years, minus the election-law reform and massive carbon tax  of his 
dreams. Why would there be a grassroots movement to parrot the official  line?
At Outside the Beltway, blogger James Joyner took a kinder tone, but  noted
that Friedman’s recommended fixes _wouldn’t fix much_ 
(http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/radical_center/) , because people actually 
disagree  about 
important political issues (and don’t necessarily agree with  Friedman): 
…[A]t least 12 states—not including California—were [using  non-partisan 
redistricting] in 2000. And several others have advisory  committees and 
other extra-legislative inputs. (See, “The Experiences of Other  States—A 
Comparison of Redistricting Commissions,” _PDF_ 
(http://www.ucdc.edu/faculty/California_Election/Redistricting%20Commissions%20-%20All.pdf)
 .) I’m not sure 
there’s any  evidence that those states are less partisan, much less more 
prone to tax  hikes, benefit cuts, or passing others of Friedman’s pet programs…
  

Regardless of whether we pass these changes… we’re still going to have  a 
very polarized polity. We’re genuinely divided on major issues of war and  
peace, freedom and security, and cultural stability vs. tolerance. 
* “_Third Party Rising_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/03/opinion/03friedman.html?pagewanted=print) ,” 
October 2,  2010. 
Here’s where the competition gets lively. In this column, Friedman called 
for  “a third party on the stage of the next presidential debate” that would 
 simultaneously stand up to “special interests” and help overcome gridlock 
in  D.C. 
Among many, many smart replies, The Washington Monthly’s Steve Benen  
_wrote_ 
(http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_10/025959.php) 
: 
I didn’t care for this column the first hundred times it’s been  published 
over the years, and it’s not improving with age… Friedman has  effectively 
endorsed the entirety of President Obama’s agenda, most of which  has 
passed, can’t pass, or has to be severely watered down because of  
unprecedented 
Senate obstructionism. But instead of calling for reforming the  legislative 
process, or calling on Republicans to start playing a constructive  role in 
policymaking, or calling on voters to elect more candidates who agree  with 
the agenda the columnist espouses, Friedman says what we really  need is an 
amorphous third party that will think the way he does.  

Sigh.
Ezra Klein _also noted_ 
(http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/10/tom_friedman_naderite.html)
  the misguided focus on  the presidency: 
If the legislative system is broken—if the best we can do is not  good 
enough—you need to change the legislative system. Friedman laments  Obama’s “
limited stimulus” and decision to “abandon an energy-climate bill  altogether,
” but he doesn’t mention the one thing that would’ve allowed for a  larger 
stimulus and a fighting chance on an energy and climate bill:  eliminating 
the filibuster.
And Brendan Nyhan _recalled the fate_ 
(http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2010/10/thomas-friedmans-third-party-nonsense.html)
  of an independent  
executive who actually managed to get elected: 
The best precedent in contemporary politics is Jesse Ventura, who  was 
elected governor in Minnesota as an independent candidate and tried to  govern 
without the support of either major party. Needless to say, it did not  go 
well.
Meanwhile, Jamelle Bouie _argued_ 
(http://prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=10&year=2010&base_name=tom_friedman_hates_democracy)
  that rule 
by Davos Man is  perhaps not in keeping with America’s democratic tradition: 
Friedman’s pining for a third party—like David Broder’s frequent  pining 
for anti-political “independents”—is strikingly undemocratic. It’s not  
just that he wants to enact his preferred agenda though an elite-driven  party 
with no constituency, no activists, and no ties to local communities but  
that he is clearly uncomfortable living in the world as it is, where voters  
matter, interests are heard, and political disagreement is  important.
And Jonathan Bernstein went _even deeper_ 
(http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2010/10/dept-of-piling-on-tom-friedman-and.html?utm_source=twitter
feed&utm_medium=twitter)  into the realm of  democratic theory: 
>From Madison and Federalist 10 on, the United States has always  been a 
gamble that democracy from difference can be an enormous strength,  despite the 
evident and frequently frightening dangers involved. And there  have always 
been those who don’t get that, and think there’s an obvious  consensus 
that would be reached if only politics or partisanship or nefarious  special 
interests didn’t get in the way… If you don’t like what’s happening in  a 
democracy, the solution is to persuade others to adopt your ideas, or  
mobilize people who already share your ideas, or form a coalition with others  
whose ideas or interests you can live with… but not, never, to assume that  
your 
ideas are the obvious and only correct ones that everyone would adopt if  
only… whatever.
* “_Make Way for the Radical Center_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24friedman.html?_r=3) ,”  
July 23, 2011. 
Collectively, the replies to Friedman’s October column presented a  
two-pronged complaint: first, there’s no way for the president to govern from  
the “
radical center” alongside an empowered, polarized legislature. And second,  
participatory democracy in the United States means competition among (and, 
at  times, cooperation between) rival political parties, not finding some 
way to  impose elite opinion by transcending politics. 
So naturally, Friedman’s latest is a paean to _Americans Elect_ 
(http://www.americanselect.org/) , a Web-oriented effort “financed with  some 
serious 
hedge fund money” that is trying to find a presidential candidate  who can “
reach across the divide of politics.” 
You can almost sense the Internet throwing up its hands in resignation. But 
 Slate’s Dave Weigel _delivered the requisite snark_ 
(http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/07/24/_f_kyouwashington.html) ,  asking 
of Friedman’s “
glib claptrap”: 
[H]ow can a sophisticated political analyst buy into this? How do  you look 
at the way Washington is actually organized, with multiple  legislative 
veto points that can cripple or kill legislation, and say “we  could fix this 
if a third party won the presidency”?
And poli-sci blogger Seth Masket _punctured the sense of  
self-congratulation_ 
(http://enikrising.blogspot.com/2011/07/here-comes-friedmans-radical-center.html?m=1)
  surrounding Americans Elect’s promise to empower  “the 
community” over “entrenched parties”: 
How exactly does a party go about nominating candidates and  determining 
planks on a platform? It involves extensive, messy deliberation  and 
coordination among political activists, major donors, some officeholders,  
party 
elders, interest group leaders, and others. In other words, it involves  the 
community. That’s what a party is. A party is not an alien presence  imposing 
its will on the democratic process. Quite the contrary: a party  emerges 
organically from the democratic process. 

Are some moderates  left out of these communities? Sure. They have a 
choice. They can form their  own new party, although the track record of those 
isn’
t great. They can suck  up their objections to the ideological extremists 
and work within one of the  party communities, although that can be 
frustrating. Or they can stay at home.  But they are not somehow more noble 
because 
they aren’t part of one of the  “entrenched parties.”
Even Friedman’s Times colleague Michael Powell _raised an eyebrow_ 
(http://twitter.com/#!/powellnyt/status/95161618119405568)  on Twitter: 
A Hedge Fund backed party railing against ‘special interests’?  With no 
evident irony, Tom Friedman endorses
All good stuff. Still, there’s a steep drop-off in the volume of responses  
from October; even Masket wrote that hesitated to comment on such “an easy  
target.” 
Smart pundits of the world, don’t give up! The reluctance to repeat 
yourself  is understandable, even admirable. But Tom Friedman is read by many, 
many 
 people. And in his infatuation with the idea of the “radical center,” he 
is  very, very mistaken. Do your part to improve public understanding of 
politics,  defend American democracy, and grab some Internet bragging rights. 
The next time  Friedman opines on the “radical center”—I’m guessing it won’
t be later than the  time Michele Bachmann wins the Iowa caucuses—take your 
best shot at proving him  wrong.

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