Boston, too, at least as the Mass Tea Party explains it. I'm not too surprised, NY and Boston are as Left as any places get East of the Mississippi. Communism in its original form still survives in NYC and the more recent versions are at home in Boston. Surprised that so little hard Leftism is in evidence here, but suspect that a good deal actually exists but that local folks prefer not to make a big deal out of it for various reasons. This place strives to be Hard Left MELLOW, not Hard Left BAAAAD. Maybe because the Anarchists have taken the role of spoilers and everyone who matters in town regards them as idiots. As for BHO, well, what can I say ? For a while he made noises about how the Tea Party was expressing valid grievances that only he could solve. This approach did not fly and so he dropped it. Fact is, he is in love with the Fat Cats in his own party and the Left , some of them anyway, are now contemptuous. Hate to say it, the phrase is derogatory, but it may best characterize him : "Uncle Tom." Trouble is that there is a disconnect between this image and his relationship with Ayers. Maybe it is one thing to be "hungry" and on the way up, and another to have "made it" and now simply want to stay on top. Can't say. Perhaps someone will come up with a better explanation. Billy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10/19/2011 9:16:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
They're really not helping themselves in a lot of places. Like Cleveland, for instance. _http://www.theblaze.com/stories/teenager-claims-she-was-raped-at-the-occupy -cleveland-protest/_ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/teenager-claims-she-was-raped-at-the-occupy-cleveland-protest/) Forcing a 19 year old gal to share a tent with a guy. What could go wrong??? Well, THAT, for instance. The press is trying to save Obama's backside. Which is made more difficult when HE makes statements in support of them. Other "luminaries" of the Party can fend for themselves, but they have to save THE ONE. I get the feeling that the New York crowd is less well behaved and maybe more radical than the rest. They sure seem to get more than their share of bad publicity. Maybe they are earning it. The Dallas group invaded a Wal-Mart in South Oak Cliff Monday. Never mind hurting business and harassing the employees there. The folks in the store aren't the problem. If they want to Occupy Wal-Mart, the place is Bentonville, AR. David "Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine."--P. J. O’Rourke On 10/19/2011 9:17 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote: David : Listened to Jonah Goldberg and AFL - CIO prez, Richard Trumka, on C-SPAN yesterday. Today there was a report from MassResistance ( Mass Tea Party ) about OWS -Boston. Now have a better picture of the movement. My synthesis of these different views : ( 1 ) In at least some cities, Boston, NY, DC, and probably others, the great majority of protestors are young, mostly college age. This is to primarily refer to those in the encampments. But these are the people on the scene every day. ( 2 ) There is a larger number of protestors who only show up for important events, or on weekends. These are family people, are older and work-force age. A large segment of this population are union people. ( 3 ) A large segment of the US population is supportive of the OWS movement, some stats put the number in excess of 50 % or even closer to 70 %. Goldberg admits this, BTW. What he also says is that part of the reason for this level of support is the economic mess, is that, yes, part of it belongs to, uhhh, Wall Street. Goldberg blames most of the troubles on the gvt but he understands the complicity of High Finance. ( 4 ) We are not getting honest reporting from the MSM. ( I'm shocked ) The press and TV networks are spinning this in all kinds of ways and no-one, Left or Right is happy with the "news" Also, the NY press has gone into overdrive to discredit the movement. This includes the WSJ, which, while more-or-less conservative nonetheless is, well, part of Wall Street. ( 5 ) Some of the discredit is well -deserved. Among the young there is more evidence for Marxist influence than I initially estimated. I'm more inclined to put it in the 1/4th range now, not 15 % or so. This is for the young. For the "weekenders" I would lower the number to significantly less than 10 %. All in all, the public sees the movement as giving voice to their outrage and extreme unhappiness at the way the banks have screwed us all and have sacrificed little and their execs still live like kings. BTW, the rage of the Left is getting heated. Hardly could believe my ears. Democracy Now, the TV news show, today, seriously Lefty, was raking Obama over the coals. Not for the reasons of the Right, for their own reasons, as a sellout. The kicker , a quote : We were told "yes we can." What we got was " we are not even going to try." This keeps getting interestinger and interestinger. Billy -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
