Hello Solomon:

Interesting post.  I am new here also.  These folks have put a lot of effort 
into developing their brand so I don't want to be disrespectful to that.

The Centrist label interested me because as I became interested in Ron Paul's 
platform it became clear to me that he is centrist in that he is drawing 
support from limited government conservatives and anti-war liberals.  He is a 
classical liberal.  Our very liberal paper here in Portsmouth did a positive 
full scale article about Paul this week. At the same time, his economc emphasis 
is the most traditionally conservative of all the candidates.

I think Paul would embrace the Independent label but eschew the centrist label.

I call myself a common sense conservative because I agree with you that a brand 
that says something about one's beliefs is important.  I had considered new 
centrism or new conservative but decided to go in a clearer direction.

As I read posts here and look at the platform, my impression is that these 
folks are pragmatic and apply reason rather than loyalty to ideas.  The slant I 
get, without oversimplifying too much is social conservative/economic 
progressive.  I hear a disdain for cultural Marxism too.  I see centrism in 
that most tribes are either both economic and socially progressive or socially 
and fiscally conservative.

Kevin


  I'm going to be a sticker on terms here, which I'm usually not, but this is 
an important point.


  It makes zero sense to use the word centrISM. That implies a system of 
thought is in place... and there isn't. There are centrISTS, but all that means 
is those people are between the left and right. It makes as much sense to say 
centrism as it does to say rightism or leftism. Positions on the ideological 
spectrum do not an ideology make. Liberalism is an ideology. Conservatism is an 
ideology. Socialism, libertarianism, anarchism, communism, etc... ideologies. 
There is no centrism.

  This is an entirely different subject, but the branding of 'radical centrism' 
is horrible. Most mainstream voters are very turned off by the idea of anything 
labeled radical, and one of the appeals of moderate/centrist politics is that 
it is the very opposite of radical politics. That's why the social network for 
centrist/moderate activism I've been working on (still in pre-beta, using a 
primitive design and some major functionality is still not up) is called 
Uniters.org - branding is important, and the center is where our country 
unites, which you even touched on in your comment. Calling it radical is a big 
mistake.


  And as far as the political developments in Britain and France go... they 
were heavily infuenced by Anthony Giddens, who either came up with the term 
Third Way, or popularized it. They do not call it radical, and have been quite 
successful. All three of the biggest parties in Britain have moderated since 
the 90's.


  Actually you can fairly call yourself a centrist party and be theocratic if 
you happen to be in a country that is steeped in hard core religion. As I keep 
saying, centrist doesn't have anything to do with any particular idea, it just 
means you are in the center of the political spectrum in the place you are 
talking about. In our country being centrist on religion roughly means you're 
not anti-religion, but you want a healthy separation of church and state.


  Weird that I never found this place before... I have a daily email of 
centrist searches that caught this in it's net a couple weeks back.


  Solomon Kleinsmith
  Rise of the Center

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