Actually, James Polk, no 20th century liberal, was responsible for the War with Mexico that added the SW, California, and Texas to the USA, and that was the 1840s. But military expansionism dates to the Revolution itself even if our various attempts to conquer Canada fell flat, both then and in 1812. There also was a threat of war with Canada as late as "54-40 or fight," also under Polk. BTW, Ben Franklin favored military expansion. So did other Founders, not least George Washington. So did TR, then a Republican , in the 1890s, and for quite a while we had the Philippines, and still have Guam and PR from that era. These are established facts that are not in the least dispute. Billy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 12/20/2011 11:09:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
I agree with that Chris. To me conservative = classical liberal or constitutionalist. Military expansionism is actually a liberal idea that began in the early 20th Century. Kevin If Paul is the most conservative candidate, how do you define conservative? I don’t resonate well with either label, liberal or conservative. Both terms are bloated with contradictory meanings that are in the eye of the beholder. Chris From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Kervick Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RC] Age of Ron Paul I like to use the term, Independent Conservative to show that he is conservative. He has the most conservative voting record in the House. The Independent label refers to the fact that he does not toe the line with neoconservatives and Progressives who say they are conservatives. His opponents and the media use libertarian to paint him as something other than conservative. I believe paul is the most conservative candidate in the race, bar none. Kevin Kevin, >From your article, “Why are they so afraid of Ron Paul? They are afraid because his message does not fit their increasingly outdated and tired narrative. If people begin to embrace Paul’s independent conservative message, many of them will undoubtedly stop listening to dinosaur Conservatives on the airwaves.” First sentence is great and I think true. Second sentence, I am confused by your use of the term “conservative” to define Paul. To me, he doesn’t fit into the normal bi-polar liberal-conservative box. Why bother to put a conservative label on him? Chris ------------------------------------------ Christopher P. Hahn, Ph.D. Constructive Agreement, LLC [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) P.O. Box 39, Bozeman, MT 59771 (406) 522-4143 (406) 556-7116 fax ------------------------------------------ From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) _[mailto:[email protected]]_ (mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]) On Behalf Of Kevin Kervick Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:10 AM To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ; [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Subject: [RC] Age of Ron Paul _http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-manchester/the-age-of-ron-paul-panic s-the-conservative-and-gop-establishments_ (http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-manchester/the-age-of-ron-paul-panics-the-conservative-and-gop-establ ishments) Discovering Possibility: A Common Sense Conservative Manifesto (For Classical Liberals Too) is available at _www.discoveringpossibility.com_ (http://www.discoveringpossibility.com/) . The book offers a sociological perspective and corresponding culture change approach, that relies on the principles of classical liberalism and a Deistic spirituality and promotes four pillars of community - freedom, personal responsibility, neighborliness, and thrift. All proceeds from Discovering Possibility go toward the furtherance of our mission at A Place for Possibilities, _www.aplaceforpossibilities.org_ (http://www.aplaceforpossibilities.org/) , a 501 (c) 3 educational nonprofit corporation. Also, check out my writing about Independent politics on Examiner.com at _http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-manchester/kevin-kervick_ (http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-manchester/kevin-kervick) -- -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
