The View From Nowhere
http://pressthink.org/2010/11/the-view-from-nowhere-questions-and-answers/

The View from Nowhere: Questions and Answers

Nov.
10
“American journalism is dumber than most journalists, who often share my sense 
of absurdity about these practices. A major reason we have a practice less 
intelligent than its practitioners is the prestige that the View from Nowhere 
still claims…”

After dismissing Mr. Williams, who was one of its senior news analysts, NPR 
argued that he had violated the organization’s belief in impartiality, a core 
tenet of modern American journalism. By renewing Mr. Williams’s contract, Fox 
News showed its preference for point-of-view — rather than the 
view-from-nowhere — polemics.
—Brian Stelter, Two Takes at NPR and Fox on Juan Williams, New York Times, Oct. 
21, 2010

(This Q and A was conducted by Jay Rosen, solo. He did the questions and the 
answers.)

Q. You’ve been using this phrase, “the view from nowhere,” for a while–

A. Yeah, since 2003…

Q. So what do you mean by it?

A. Three things. In pro journalism, American style, the View from Nowhere is a 
bid for trust that advertises the viewlessness of the news producer. Frequently 
it places the journalist between polarized extremes, and calls that neither-nor 
position “impartial.” Second, it’s a means of defense against a style of 
criticism that is fully anticipated: charges of bias originating in partisan 
politics and the two-party system. Third: it’s an attempt to secure a kind of 
universal legitimacy that is implicitly denied to those who stake out positions 
or betray a point of view. American journalists have almost a lust for the View 
from Nowhere because they think it has more authority than any other possible 
stance.

Q. Well, does it?

A. What authority there is in the position of viewlessness is unearned– like 
the snooty guy who, when challenged, says, “Madam, I have a PhD.” In 
journalism, real authority starts with reporting. Knowing your stuff, mastering 
your beat, being right on the facts, digging under the surface of things, 
calling around to find out what happened, verifying what you heard. “I’m there, 
you’re not, let me tell you about it.” Illuminating a murky situation because 
you understand it better than almost anyone. Doing the work! Having a track 
record, a reputation for reliability is part of it, too. But that comes from 
doing the work.

Q. Who gets credit for the phrase, “view from nowhere?”

A. The philosopher Thomas Nagel, who wrote a very important book with that 
title.

Q. What does it say?

A. It says that human beings are, in fact, capable of stepping back from their 
position to gain an enlarged understanding, which includes the more limited 
view they had before the step back. Think of the cinema: when the camera pulls 
back to reveal where a character had been standing and shows us a fuller 
tableau. To Nagel, objectivity is that kind of motion. We try to “transcend our 
particular viewpoint and develop an expanded consciousness that takes in the 
world more fully.”

But there are limits to this motion. We can’t transcend all our starting 
points. No matter how far it pulls back the camera is still occupying a 
position. We can’t actually take the “view from nowhere,” but this doesn’t mean 
that objectivity is a lie or an illusion. Our ability to step back and the fact 
that there are limits to it– both are real. And realism demands that we 
acknowledge both.

Q. So is objectivity a myth… or not?

A. One of the many interesting things Nagel says in that book is that 
“objectivity is both underrated and overrated, sometimes by the same persons.” 
It’s underrated by those who scoff at it as a myth. It is overrated by people 
who think it can replace the view from somewhere or transcend the human 
subject. It can’t.

Q. You are very critical of the View from Nowhere in journalism. It’s almost a 
derisive term for you.

A. That’s true. I let my disdain for it show.

Q. Why?

A. Because it has unearned authority in the American press. If in doing the 
serious work of journalism–digging, reporting, verification, mastering a 
beat–you develop a view, expressing that view does not diminish your authority. 
It may even add to it. The View from Nowhere doesn’t know from this. It also 
encourages journalists to develop bad habits. Like: criticism from both sides 
is a sign that you’re doing something right, when you could be doing everything 
wrong.

When MSNBC suspends Keith Olbermann for donating without company permission to 
candidates he supports– that’s dumb. When NPR forbids its “news analysts” from 
expressing a view on matters they are empowered to analyze– that’s dumb. When 
reporters have to “launder” their views by putting them in the mouths of think 
tank experts: dumb. When editors at the Washington Post decline even to 
investigate whether the size of rallies on the Mall can be reliably  estimated 
because they want to avoid charges of “leaning one way or the other,” as one of 
them recently put it, that is dumb. When CNN thinks that, because it’s not 
MSNBC and it’s not Fox, it’s the only the “real news network” on cable, CNN is 
being dumb about itself.

In fact, American journalism is dumber than most journalists, who often share 
my sense of absurdity about these practices. A major reason we have a practice 
less intelligent than its practitioners is the prestige that the View from 
Nowhere still claims in American newsrooms. You asked me why I am derisive 
toward it. That’s why.

Q. Okay, but as I’m sure you know, smart journalists figured out a long time 
ago that complete objectivity is unattainable. They are quick to acknowledge 
that. They may say that it’s a goal worth striving for, but they are not 
unaware of the problems you mention. Many of them think fairness a better goal, 
anyway. Why go on and on about it, when these concessions have been made?

A. Well, part of the reason I started using the term View from Nowhere is to 
isolate the part I found troublesome. About that larger contraption, newsroom 
objectivity, I have a mixed view. When people talk about objectivity in 
journalism they have many different things in mind. Some of these I have no 
quarrel with. You could even say I’m a “fan.”

For example, if objectivity means trying to ground truth claims in verifiable 
facts, I am definitely for that. If it means there’s a “hard” reality out there 
that exists beyond any of our descriptions of it, sign me up. If objectivity is 
the requirement to acknowledge what is, regardless of whether we want it to be 
that way, then I want journalists who can be objective in that sense. Don’t 
you? If it means trying to see things in that fuller perspective Thomas Nagel 
talked about–pulling the camera back, revealing our previous position as only 
one of many–I second the motion. If it means the struggle to get beyond the 
limited perspective that our experience and upbringing afford us… yeah, we need 
more of that, not less. I think there is value in acts of description that do 
not attempt to say whether the thing described is good or bad. Is that 
objectivity? If so, I’m all for it, and I do that myself sometimes.

The View from Nowhere is my attempt to isolate the element in objectivity that 
we don’t need, and call attention to it.

Q. What happens if the attempt fails and the View From Nowhere continues on, 
unaffected by any of these criticisms?

A. I could be wrong, but I think we are in the midst of shift in the system by 
which trust is sustained in professional journalism. David Weinberger tried to 
capture it with his phrase: transparency is the new objectivity. My version of 
that: it’s easier to trust in “here’s where I’m coming from” than the View from 
Nowhere. These are two different ways of bidding for the confidence of the 
users.

In the old way, one says: “I don’t have a horse in this race. I don’t have a 
view of the world that I’m defending. I’m just telling you the way it is, and 
you should accept it because I’ve done the work and I don’t have a stake in the 
outcome…”

In the newer way, the logic is different. “Look, I’m not going to pretend that 
I have no view. Instead, I am going to level with you about where I’m coming 
from on this. So factor that in when you evaluate my report. Because I’ve done 
the work and this is what I’ve concluded…”

If the View from Nowhere continues on, unchallenged, trust in the news media 
will probably continue to decline.

Q. Your counsel would be to drop it, then?

A. No, to challenge it. I think it’s wiser to be ecumenical about this. A great 
deal of progress can be made with a pluralistic solution. Let’s have View from 
Nowhere people flourishing side by side with “here’s where I’m coming from” 
journalists, and see what happens. Ease up and let both systems operate– 
sometimes within the same news organization. During the episode in which a fine 
young reporter, Dave Weigel, lost his job at the Washington Post because he was 
perceived as insufficiently uncommitted, Ben Smith of the Politico stood up for 
this kind of pluralism: “My personal view is that ideological and neutral 
journalism can flourish side by side, each going places the other is unwelcome, 
and each correcting for the other’s weaknesses.”

I wouldn’t use the terms he used, but I am willing to sign on to the remedy.

Let some in the press continue on with the mask of impartiality, which has 
advantages for cultivating sources and soothing advertisers. Let others 
experiment with transparency as the basis for trust. When you click on their 
by-line it takes you to a disclosure page where there is a bio, a kind of 
mission statement, and a creative attempt to say: here’s where I’m coming from 
(one example) along with campaign contributions, any affiliations or 
memberships, and–I’m just speculating now–a list of heroes and villains, or 
major influences, along with an archive of the work, plus anything else that 
might assist the user in placing this person on the user’s mattering map. 

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