The following  article is a typical Evangelical evasion ;   accepted 
doctrine says 
that the Bible is error free, therefore any and all conclusions that one's  
"scholarship" 
arrives at will always take the view that the Bible contains no mistakes of 
 substance, 
let alone moral failures  --viz, God  supposedly directing Joshua  to 
slaughter 
the populations of entire city states.
 
For sure, at least this is what scholarship of my own tells me, most of the 
 Bible is as
reliable as any ancient book gets. Compared to its competition the Bible is 
 superior to
just about everything else, especially to the Koran,  even if we can  
debate the relative value
of a good number of Buddhist sutras since while they are mostly ahistorical 
 in character
and do play games with history now and then, they are rather different and  
mostly 
are about human psychology.
 
But to claim substantive inerrancy for the Bible is ridiculous and more  
than anything shows
complete ignorance of the entire range of critical literature about the  
Judeo-Christian
scriptures. Just a few examples :
 
The Book of Joshua has the Sun stand still in the sky for many hours so  
that a battle
can be concluded favorably. This is scientifically impossible and rests on  
the 
false assumption that the Sun revolves around the Earth.
 
A contradiction is an error and here is a doozy that Atheists like to cite  
:
Gen 32:30 states, "...for I have seen God face to face, and my life is  
preserved."  
However, John 1:18 states, "No man hath seen God at any time..."  Both  
statements 
cannot be true.  Either there is an error of fact, or an error of  
translation.  In either case, 
there is an error.    --This is from a Free Thought website,  but let me 
add that the author of
John was making a strong theological point and in the process overlooked  
the fact that the OT
--Hebrew Bible--   presents about 20 cases of God walking among  human 
beings, face to face.
 
Not getting facts strait is a common problem , for example :
    2 Samuel 8:3-4 says "David smote also Hadadezer...and took from  
him...seven hundred horsemen..." 1 Chronicles 18:3-4 says "David smote 
Hadarezer...and took from  him...seven thousand horsemen..."
 
There are a good number of similar discrepancies in a number of Biblical  
books.
 
 
Then there are "problems" that are unresolvable, like discrepancies in the  
genealogies
in Matthew and Luke, and passages in Exodus that describe the Israelites as 
 a mixed multitude
needing rules for intermarriage but accepting it as part of the social  
order,  vs Ezra and
Nehemiah's condemnations of ANY intermarriage, etc
 
Which is just a modest warm up. The Bible has literally hundreds of errors, 
 large and small.
 
Inerrant ?  Not a chance. The task is to sort out the false from the  true, 
even if there is
far more true than otherwise.  The Bible is a treasure. But it is not  
error free. What
some Evangelicals are willing to concede, that there are trivial mistakes  
in some passages
due to copyist errors in the Medieval era,  really isn't a  consideration. 
Even hard core
Atheists are willing to give the Bible a pass on these minor issues. The  
problem is that
there are errors of substance in the book, a lot of such errors,  and we 
need to be clear
about what these are so that we can focus on what is  true  and good. 
Pretense that
the Bible is free from all errors of substance is no different than lying  
to one's self
and then lying to others to compound the problem.
 
Billy
 
=============================================
 
 
 
Christian Post
March 6, 2012
 
What to Say When Someone Says "The Bible Has Errors"
 
By Jonathan Dodson 
Most people question the reliability of the Bible. You’ve probably been in 
a  conversation with a friend or met someone in a coffeeshop who said: “How 
can you  be a Christian when the Bible has so many errors?” How should we 
respond? What  do you say? 
Instead of asking them to name one, I suggest you name one or two of the  
errors. Does your Bible contain errors? Yes. The Bible that most people 
possess  is a translation of the Greek and Hebrew copies of copies of the 
original  documents of Scripture. As you can imagine, errors have crept in over 
the 
 centuries of copying. Scribes fall asleep, misspell, take their eyes off 
the  manuscript, and so on. I recommend telling people what kind of errors 
have crept  into the Bible. Starting with the New Testament, Dan Wallace, New 
Testament  scholar and founder the Center for the Study of New Testament 
Manuscripts, lists  four types of errors in _Understanding Scripture: An 
Overview of the Bible’s Origin,  Reliability, and Meaning._ 
(http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/8193/nm/Understanding+Scripture:+An+Overview+of+th
e+Bible's+Origin,+Reliability,+and+Meaning+(Paperback)?utm_source=jdodson&ut
m_medium=blogpartners)  
Types of Errors 
1) Spelling & Nonsense Errors. These  are errors occur when a scribe wrote 
a word that makes no sense in its context,  usually because they were tired 
or took their eyes off the page.Some of these  errors are quite comical, 
such as "we were horses among you" (Gk. hippoi,  "horses," instead of ēpioi, 
"gentle," or nēpioi, "little children") in 1  Thessalonians 2:7 in one late 
manuscript. Obviously, Paul isn’t saying he acted  like a horse among them. 
That would be self-injury! These kinds of errors are  easily corrected. 
2) Minor Changes. These minor changes are as small  as the presence or 
absence of an article "the" or changed word order, which can  vary considerably 
in Greek. Depending on the sentence, Greek grammar allows the  sentence to 
be written up to 18 times, while still saying the same thing! So  just 
because a sentence wasn’t copied in the same order, doesn’t mean that we  lost 
the meaning. 
3) Meaningful but not Plausible. These errors have  meaning but aren't a 
plausible reflection of the original text. For example, 1  Thessalonians 2:9, 
instead of "the gospel of God" (the reading of almost all the  manuscripts), 
a late medieval copy has "the gospel of Christ." There is a  meaning 
difference between God and Christ, but the overall manuscript evidence  points 
clearly in one direction, making the error plain and not plausibly part  of the 
original. 
4) Meaningful and Plausible. These are errors  that have meaning and that 
the alternate reading is plausible as a reflection of  the original wording. 
These types of errors account for less than 1% of all  variants and 
typically involve a single word or phrase. The biggest of  these types of 
errors is 
the ending of the Gospel of Mark, which most  contemporary scholars to not 
regard as original. Our translations even footnote  that! 
Is the Bible Reliable? 
So, is the Bible reliable? Well, the reliability of our English 
translations  depends largely upon the quality of the manuscripts they were 
translated 
from.  The quality depends, in part, on how recent the manuscripts are. 
Scholars like  Bart Ehrman have asserted that we don't have manuscripts that 
are 
early enough.  However, the manuscript evidence is quite impressive: 
    *   There are as many as eighteen second-century  manuscripts. If the 
Gospels were completed between 50-100 A.D.,  then this means that these early 
copies are within 100 years. Just last week,  Dan Wallace announced that a 
new fragment from the Gospel of Mark was  discovered dating back to the 
first century A.D., placing it well within 50  years of the originals, a first 
of its kind. When these early manuscripts are  all put together, more than 
43% of the NT is accounted for from copies no  later than the 2nd C. 
    *   Manuscripts that date before 400 AD number 99, including one  
complete New Testament called Codex Sinaiticus. So the gap between  the 
original, 
inerrant autographs and the earliest manuscripts is pretty slim.  This 
comes into focus when the Bible is compared to other classical works  that, in 
general, are not doubted for their reliability. In _this  chart of 
comparison_ 
(http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/02/08/earlier-fragment-of-marks-gospel-rumored-to-be-found/)
  with other ancient literature, you can see 
that  the NT has far more copies than any other work, numbering 5,700 
(Greek) in  comparison to the 200+ of Suetonius. If we take all manuscripts 
into 
account  (handwritten prior to printing press), we have 20,000 copies of the 
NT. There  are only 200 copies of the earliest Greek work. 
    *   This means if we are going to be skeptical about  the Bible, then 
we need to be 1000xs more skeptical about the works of  Greco-Roman history. 
Or put another way, we can be 1000 times more  confident about the 
reliability of the Bible. It is far and away the most  reliable ancient 
document.
What to Say When Someone Says “The Bible Has Errors”. 
So, when someone asserts that the Bible says errors, we can reply by 
saying:  “Yes, our Bible translations do have errors, let me tell  you about 
them. 
But as you can see, less than 1% of them are meaningful and  those errors 
don’t affect the major teachings of the Christian faith. In fact,  there are 
1000 times more manuscripts of the Bible than the most documented  
Greco-Roman historian by _Suetonius_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius) . 
So, 
if we’re going to be skeptical about ancient  books, we should be 1000 times 
more skeptical of the Greco-Roman histories. The  Bible is, in fact, 
incredibly reliable.” 
Contrary to popular assertion, that as time rolls on we get further and  
further away from the original with each new discovery, we actually get closer 
 and closer to the original text. As Wallace puts it, we have "an 
embarrassment  of riches when it comes to the biblical documents." Therefore, 
we can 
be  confident that what we read in our modern translations of the the 
ancient texts  is approximately 99% accurate. It is very  reliable.

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